Prospect Info: The 2021 NHL Entry Draft Thread

[Daximus]

1st round goalies scare me. Lots of pressure on them to succeed early, and as we all know, goalies are voodoo.

Interestingly enough the majority of goalies come from the first 3 rounds of the draft. I don't think goalies are as voodoo as they are made out to be. You just have to know what to look for in a good prospect and then let them develop.

 

[Daximus]

I was wondering the same thing. This might be a good draft to grab a goalie for the future.

Cossa looks really interesting. Though how much of that is team play vs player ability?

Cossa is damn good but his team is solid in front of him. He's drawing a lot of comparisons to Ben Bishop, size being the main thing there. Bishops biggest downfall has always been his health so if Cossa can stay on the right track he should have a good chance of being an NHL goalie.

He plays the typical big man goalie style. Gets into butterfly often and seals the lower half of the ice well. His height makes it tough to go high on him and won't be the type to flop around a lot to make saves but he's ridiculously quick for a big man. He is more of a pure positional guy than athletic, basically if he see's the puck he's likely going to stop it. Cross crease passes are the way to beat him, but very few goalies are strong in that regard. I wouldn't be opposed to him at all at 17 (18), I do feel like it's not a major need to add a high end goalie prospect yet. But he's in my top 20.

 

[Daximus]

It's interesting to me that we are starting to see some kids born and raised in Winnipeg that grew up huge Jets fans. Seth Jarvis last year and Carson Lambos this year. Would be interesting to get a kid into the org who grew up cheering for the team and who watched games in the arena and whose favourite players were Jets. Saw an interview with Lambos and he said his favourite player growing up was Buff.

 

[irunthepeg]

It's interesting to me that we are starting to see some kids born and raised in Winnipeg that grew up huge Jets fans. Seth Jarvis last year and Carson Lambos this year. Would be interesting to get a kid into the org who grew up cheering for the team and who watched games in the arena and whose favourite players were Jets. Saw an interview with Lambos and he said his favourite player growing up was Buff.

.......................................... *has existential crisis about how old he's getting*

 

[Whileee]

Chevy confirms something we've noted here several times... 1st round picks are much, much more valuable around the draft than at the TDL.

 

[KingBogo]

Interestingly enough the majority of goalies come from the first 3 rounds of the draft. I don't think goalies are as voodoo as they are made out to be. You just have to know what to look for in a good prospect and then let them develop.

I missed this when you posted and interesting take. Most of us have no real way to evaluate goaltender prospects so the easy default is they are voodoo.

 

[Scheifele55]

This is NOT going to be a fair draft for the Winnipeg Jets. There is only 1 high rated RHD Brandt Clarke who will be gone in the top 10 with Corson Ceulemans being the only RHD who may go in the 1st round. I have read he could go anywhere from 18 to 28. We have #17 pick so it wouldn't be that much of a reach.


If Winnipeg intends on filling their biggest weakness he is the most realistic option. If Cheveldayoff takes the best player available, especially, someone who falls to them at #17, I would be happy.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I don't expect anyone they draft to be in the lineup for at leas 2 years. Which likely means they need to find another way to get a RHD

 

[Daximus]

I don't expect anyone they draft to be in the lineup for at leas 2 years. Which likely means they need to find another way to get a RHD

Yeah I think you go BPA, regardless of position in this draft and look to FA and trades to address needs for right now.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Yeah I think you go BPA, regardless of position in this draft and look to FA and trades to address needs for right now.

Praying Lambos is there for us to take

 

[snowkiddin]

Can any of you prospect gurus shed some light on Aatu Raty? Once thought to be the #1 pick in this draft, his stock continues to fall.

Is he someone we should entertain at #18?

 

[trebendan]

I don't expect anyone they draft to be in the lineup for at leas 2 years. Which likely means they need to find another way to get a RHD

Kovacevic? He'd make a good 3 RD, with Pionk and DeMelo ahead of him.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Can any of you prospect gurus shed some light on Aatu Raty? Once thought to be the #1 pick in this draft, his stock continues to fall.

Is he someone we should entertain at #18?

Projects to be a Joel Armia type IMO

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Kovacevic? He'd make a good 3 RD, with Pionk and DeMelo ahead of him.

Not sure why they haven't called him up yet. Hopefully they give him a shot next year. I like him

 

[Huffer]

Praying Lambos is there for us to take

It would be great if he was there and the Jets took him.

 

[Daximus]

Can any of you prospect gurus shed some light on Aatu Raty? Once thought to be the #1 pick in this draft, his stock continues to fall.

Is he someone we should entertain at #18?

I have him currently ranked 36. I think he's got a shot at being an NHLer but he took a major drop for me this year. He only took a small step forward this year and many assumed he would take the big leap. If he's available and the Jets think he's our pick then I have no issues with that but he isn't on my radar at 18 (17)

 

[snowkiddin]

I have him currently ranked 36. I think he's got a shot at being an NHLer but he took a major drop for me this year. He only took a small step forward this year and many assumed he would take the big leap. If he's available and the Jets think he's our pick then I have no issues with that but he isn't on my radar at 18 (17)

Any reason for the drop? Did his game just not grow compared to the other prospects?

 

[Daximus]

Any reason for the drop? Did his game just not grow compared to the other prospects?

Yeah he just didn't really have a very good season. Watched a few of his u20 and Liiga games and he just didn't scream 1st line C to me. I think you can probably project him as more of a middle 6 kind of player as the upside currently. He was left of this years WJC squad in favour of younger players. I think he might be more of a longer term project. The Armia comparison is pretty apt. He's a good but not great skater, has good hands and can finish but isn't much of a playmaker. Has a decent defensive stick and plays physical and battles decently in the corners. I think if you draft him you are looking at more of a 3rd line player than can play the shutdown role and chip in offensively, but might be able to play up in the lineup at 2C if need be.

 

[jgimp]

I don't expect anyone they draft to be in the lineup for at leas 2 years. Which likely means they need to find another way to get a RHD

5 years if Maurice has his way

 

[KingBogo]

5 years if Maurice has his way

Not even Stanley the most hated prospect of all time had to wait 5 full years to get into the lineup. Only took him 4 and then in season 5 he made it.

 

[MardyBum]

Not even Stanley the most hated prospect of all time had to wait 5 full years to get into the lineup. Only took him 4 and then in season 5 he made it.

Yup, just gotta hope for some timely injuries and absences.

 

[KingBogo]

Yup, just gotta hope for some timely injuries and absences.

That is pretty much how it goes. Unless you are an elite top 10 prospect who is given a clear path, you have to wait for an opportunity and prove yourself, but to think this doesn't happen from Bantam up through the junior ranks into the minors up to the NHL is to never have played competitive hockey.

 

[MardyBum]

That is pretty much how it goes. Unless you are an elite top 10 prospect who is given a clear path, you have to wait for an opportunity and prove yourself, but to think this doesn't happen from Bantam up through the junior ranks into the minors up to the NHL is to never have played competitive hockey.

With the Jets for sure. Thankfully we've had some "fortunate"(for the player coming in) injuries and absences that allowed elite talent that was stuck behind a gud pro an opportunity to show what they can do.

 

[lanky]

Any reason for the drop? Did his game just not grow compared to the other prospects?

I think he hit a wall emotionally. The pressure of being a future 1 OA got to him. He lost his confidence on the ice and actually regressed.
I believe he has the talent and physical gifts of a top five pick. The trick will be understanding how he thinks and whether he'll grow past his struggles.

 

[Daximus]

I think he hit a wall emotionally. The pressure of being a future 1 OA got to him. He lost his confidence on the ice and actually regressed.
I believe he has the talent and physical gifts of a top five pick. The trick will be understanding how he thinks and whether he'll grow past his struggles.

I was never really sold on him as a #1 from the get go. Power, Hughes, Clarke, Guenther and Johnson were always more intriguing. I'm also not all that high on Beniers either but I'm likely in the minority there.