Confirmed with Link: [TBL/CBJ/DET] Lightning trade 1st, 3rd, and 4th rd picks for David Savard (25%) & Brian Lashoff

[Stormbreaker]

 

[The Gongshow]

Agreed. We’re a much better team now than we were a few hours ago.

I’m excited for what this lineup could look like a month from now with Kucherov.

That's the thing, we're adding Savard (upgrade on RD, our weakest side) AND getting Kucherov back for the playoffs. It's a very expensive rental though.

The emergence of Colton takes some of the blow though with the lack for draft capital we have moving forward

 

[These Are The Days]

The tears of unimaginable pettiness hydrates me

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

 

[These Are The Days]

That is a SOLID beard too man. An understated element of our team. We're gonna be looking grizzly if we can go back to back.

 

[Todd1a]

That's the thing, we're adding Savard (upgrade on RD, our weakest side) AND getting Kucherov back for the playoffs. It's a very expensive rental though.

The emergence of Colton takes some of the blow though with the lack for draft capital we have moving forward

we might win another cup but we are destroying our future for it with lack of picks

 

[Sky04]

Steep but obviously JBB knows we're in our window right now

 

[bov]

I love that JBB doesn't hesitate to deal high picks. We're looking for a cup, period. I know Jackets fans were critical but Savard always struck me as a solid, stay at home d-man. Happy to have him.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

i want gusev and the cup ty jbb

 

[The Gongshow]

I love that JBB doesn't hesitate to deal high picks. We're looking for a cup, period. I know Jackets fans were critical but Savard always struck me as a solid, stay at home d-man. Happy to have him.

Savard is a solid stay at home guy, blocks a tone of shots and is physical, which we need in the playoffs

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

There are first round picks and first round picks. TB's first-round pick is not the same thing as Detroit's first-round pick.

Obviously. Still didn't think he was worth ANY first rounder...

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Obviously. Still didn't think he was worth ANY first rounder...

As Brisebois said, "you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't."

If you can win, then it's worth it, as it was with the assets we gave up last year for Coleman and Goodrow.

 

[LightningStrikes]

When JBB wants a player he goes and f***ing gets him!

 

[LTIR Trickery]

Obviously. Still didn't think he was worth ANY first rounder...

It's not that he's worth it, it's that the pick is worth it to not give a roster player.

 

[DaBolts]

The tears of unimaginable pettiness hydrates me

Aka, hockey Viagra.

I love the taste of bitter tears from other teams, especially those with "leafs" in their name.

 

[Sky04]

Loving the aggressive take by JBB.

 

[koteka]

CBJ fan here. Savard doesn’t pair well with everyone. But when he gets paired with someone who clicks, it is great to watch if you like defense. He also seems to have a shelf life with defensive partners. So it might take some juggling of your defense to find the right partner for him. You’ll see he has different partners the last few years. He played well with Ian Cole. He played well with Nutivaara when we beat you in the playoffs. He paired well with Gavrikov last year but not so much this year.

For the right price, I’d like to see him back in Columbus next year. Good luck in the playoffs. With all the blocks he has made over the years, Savard deserves to have his name on the Cup.

 

[DaBolts]

CBJ fan here. Savard doesn’t pair well with everyone. But when he gets paired with someone who clicks, it is great to watch if you like defense. He also seems to have a shelf life with defensive partners. So it might take some juggling of your defense to find the right partner for him. You’ll see he has different partners the last few years. He played well with Ian Cole. He played well with Nutivaara when we beat you in the playoffs. He paired well with Gavrikov last year but not so much this year.

For the right price, I’d like to see him back in Columbus next year. Good luck in the playoffs. With all the blocks he has made over the years, Savard deserves to have his name on the Cup.

Thanks. I think he'll be paired with Hedman which should give Heddy more time for him to roam in the offensive zone. I've always liked his game and I just think Torts did not use him properly, but hey, what do I know, my name isn't on the cup and Torts' is.

 

[bov]

Obvious cap space issues aside, JB definitely didn't close the door on another trade. It's unlikely for sure, but he didn't exactly act like we're done looking around.

 

[DaBolts]

Someone finally made a graphic explaining this trade and the new universe we are all in. Thank you to whoever created this:

 

[BoltsOfAnarchy]

As Brisebois said, "you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't."

If you can win, then it's worth it, as it was with the assets we gave up last year for Coleman and Goodrow.

BULLSEYE!

 

[CupsOverCash]

Obviously. Still didn't think he was worth ANY first rounder...

I didnt think we would do anything because we didn't have the cap room for him. After the trade you have to be happy because we took another swing on the cup when we really weren't in position to do it! Thought we would have to go with the guys we had. Last year we gave up 2 first round picks for guys the league thought was a big overpayment for those guys. After we won the cup nobody argues those moves. This time we give up a 1st round pick for a guy that people say isn't worth a first but let's put it in perspective? Last time we did it we won the cup, if we win the cup its pretty much a 2nd round pick because it's the last pick in the round, and finally think about our 1st round pick history as it hasn't been good. I'll give JBB the benefit of the doubt when it comes to these moves since it worked out last time.

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

Obviously. Still didn't think he was worth ANY first rounder...

Well, here's something to consider. Of the 31st overall picks from the drafts between, I dunno, lets say 2003 through to 2016 (2003 because it was a great draft year, 2016 because I don't want to penalize more recent draftees who may not have made the NHL yet). There have been 11 skaters and three goalies drafted with the 31st overall pick in that time. The results?

750 games played, 79 goals, 88 assists for the 11 skaters. That averages out to 68 games played, 7.18 goals, and 8 assists for each individual player. That's not season averages, those are their entire careers.

The goalies have done a bit better. Two of them - Jacob Markstrom and Mikko Koskinen - are in the NHL today, as starters even, albeit not for the teams who drafted them. The other, Oscar Dansk, has played a total of five NHL games in net.

Why 31st overall? Because, if things go right, that's what the Lightning's draft selection is going to be. Obviously it will be a little bit higher if they fall short of the Cup, and if they do? Then maybe some of those numbers amongst 27th overalls, 28th overalls, etc. are a bit better than for 31st overalls. Who the hell knows. But based on the average results for 31st overall picks? If you win a Cup with David Savard instead, odds are you won't regret what you missed out on. Odds are, you won't regret it anyway.

 

[DaBolts]