I agree. the lindsay is more prestigious. The Hart is voted on by a lot of fluffy fools who base things on numbers. I can guarantee you Hall would not win it if Gms or coaches or players voted on it. A lot of these voters know maybe only slightly more about hockey than the avg hf poster.
I agree. the lindsay is more prestigious. The Hart is voted on by a lot of fluffy fools who base things on numbers. I can guarantee you Hall would not win it if Gms or coaches or players voted on it. A lot of these voters know maybe only slightly more about hockey than the avg hf poster.
no. it just wasn't going to happen here for hall. he needed the slap upside the head with the trade/tongue lashing to FINALLY get it.... for now.
yup, hall may have won the hart but i bet you the vast majority of players, coaches, gms will still consider kessel a better player.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
I can tell you that having neither is definitely not better. We have the shittiest wings in the league now.
yes, we need to upgrade the wing. heck i said this in the summer of 2017. but hall was not and never the answer for THIS team. if he stayed he likely would have continued to be the negative presence he was and any "good" he would have provided offensively would be undone by his attitude, lack of team first play and immaturity etc. heck even his current GM alluded to as much recently.
Oh great, here we go again with HK's recycled garbage about Taylor Hall.
Kessel's a better goal scorer, sure, but his career to the same point as Hall's looks very similar: two 80+point seasons but otherwise in the 50-60 point range (with Kessel playing more games).
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Aceboogie
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LMAO, HK, I would love for you to explain about how Lucic (and his so called high ass character) asked for a trade, and yet Taylor Hall never asked for one after his years of losing in Edmonton has Hall having such problems as a person.
Pretty laughable that you tried to use McDavid's expression during Hall's hart speech. You're as clueless as the leaf fans and TSN morons that tried to paint a 'McDavid's not happy based on his facial expression' when the Oilers won the lottery.
Pretty laughable that you tried to use McDavid's expression during Hall's hart speech. You're as clueless as the leaf fans and TSN morons that tried to paint a 'McDavid's not happy based on his facial expression' when the Oilers won the lottery.
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Nope. Nope. He has to do it every year to get the recognition from tkachev etc.
Yeah management here is lousy at developing young players and has been for a long time. Chia is carrying on that fine tradition.
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I just don't f***ing understand some Oilers fans. If Chiarelli traded McDavid for Brooks f***ing Orpik tomorrow, I guarantee there would be posters coming out of the woodwork with statements like "he never committed to Edmonton anyways - did you see his face on draft day?"
CAN'T WE JUST ACCEPT THAT TAYLOR HALL WAS PHENOMENAL FOR US AND HE DESERVED BETTER? I can't believe that's somehow a goddamn controversial statement even if you're Larsson's biggest f***ing fan on the planet. Hall busted his ass for us, was the only reason to watch the team for YEARS. HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL SLAGGING ON HIM AFTER A HART WIN!?!?
CAN'T WE JUST ACCEPT THAT TAYLOR HALL WAS PHENOMENAL FOR US AND HE DESERVED BETTER? I can't believe that's somehow a goddamn controversial statement even if you're Larsson's biggest f***ing fan on the planet. Hall busted his ass for us, was the only reason to watch the team for YEARS. HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL SLAGGING ON HIM AFTER A HART WIN!?!?
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Maybe missing my point slightly. McDavid deserved the Hart this season. The only reason he didn't get it is because of the team. He is still more deserving than Hall in my opinion.
Only reason why he didn't win or get nominated, because the PHWA still lives under a rock. That being said, it makes Chiarelli look much more of a moron trading a Hart winner who never wanted to be traded in the first place. Imagine having the Art Ross, Ted Lindsay winner, and Hart winners from last year and this year on the same team. Too bad.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
McDavid was the best player this season but he wasn't the most valuable.
The Devils finish below us without Hall.
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Why you continually trying to put down RNH in a Hall thread? It’s getting rather pathetic.
He's not putting down RNH, he's pointing out what he sees as a double standard in how they are treated. I mean, I know this because he said so.
It's not his fault the facts show RNH at his very best isn't as good as Hall at his worst and I say that as someone who is a big Nuge fan.
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well, i never claimed lucic to have been a good signing. heck i didn't think he was good at all in his first year here. don't think i ever said looch was for sure a great character guy.
just because you don't ask for a trade doesn't mean you have good character. hall got comfortable here. he got lazy in many ways and entitled. he needed to move on to develop and change as a player and person. was never going to happen here.
probably part of it and part of it was on hall too though. time will tell how long this "new" hall will stick around or if he'll revert a bit back to the old ways.
