St. Louis and San Jose Watch (1st round picks)

[Reddawg]

So, are we saying that there's a path where if STL and SJ both lose in the first round, we keep both picks this year and Anaheim gets one next year?

 

[Ronnbergundy]

So, are we saying that there's a path where if STL and SJ both lose in the first round, we keep both picks this year and Anaheim gets one next year?

No. We only get one.

 

[dotcommunism]

So, are we saying that there's a path where if STL and SJ both lose in the first round, we keep both picks this year and Anaheim gets one next year?

It's a matter of which of the two picks winds up with Anaheim and which one ends up with Buffalo. One's going to each team regardless of the various outcomes.

 

[Djp]

So, are we saying that there's a path where if STL and SJ both lose in the first round, we keep both picks this year and Anaheim gets one next year?

ST Louis pick will be either 17-20 or 28-31
San Jose pick can be 21-31

either get to conference finals its 28-31

If St Louis and San Jose dont make the conference finals
If St louis has teams below them advance to the finals they drop to 17-19
If San Jose has any team advance to the conference finals then they drop a spot (up to 4) so the pick would be 21-25,

Outside of both making the conference finals, the closest the two picks can be is 2 spots.
right now 4 teams between then and two play each other thus one getting eliminated.

 

[Snippit]

STL-WPG now tied at 2-2. SJ down 3-1 to VGK

We might just get this pick back up to 19 boys

 

[Yatzhee]

Come on Winnipeg....

 

[Zip15]

STL-WPG now tied at 2-2. SJ down 3-1 to VGK

We might just get this pick back up to 19 boys

We need the Avs to go ahead 3-1 tonight. An Avs-Knights 2nd round series guarantees one of them in the conference finals, and bumps STL to 19 assuming the Blues don't also make the conference finals. We could be locked into the STL pick as soon as next week if those series (Avs, Knights, Jets) go our way.

 

[Chainshot]

We need the Avs to go ahead 3-1 tonight. An Avs-Knights 2nd round series guarantees one of them in the conference finals, and bumps STL to 19 assuming the Blues don't also make the conference finals. We could be locked into the STL pick as soon as next week if those series (Avs, Knights, Jets) go our way.

It appears the Avs-Flames series is breaking in the Sabres favor. Now they just need the Jets to get it together...

 

[Selanne00008]

It appears the Avs-Flames series is breaking in the Sabres favor. Now they just need the Jets to get it together...

Even the stars winning helps correct? They would bump it down even more possibly. At this point it should come down to how deep the blues go.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Even the stars winning helps correct? They would bump it down even more possibly. At this point it should come down to how deep the blues go.

It's a bit of a gamble hoping for Dallas to win. Dallas would have to be good enough to take out StL if StL beats WPG. But yeah, if everything goes Buffalo's way and Dallas wins the division, and CLB beats TOR/BOS, then Buffalo could pick as high as 17th.

 

[Ronnbergundy]

It's a bit of a gamble hoping for Dallas to win. Dallas would have to be good enough to take out StL if StL beats WPG. But yeah, if everything goes Buffalo's way and Dallas wins the division, and CLB beats TOR/BOS, then Buffalo could pick as high as 17th.

DAL winning would be great if STL loses first round. Otherwise I think Nashville is preferable.

 

[Selanne00008]

DAL winning would be great if STL loses first round. Otherwise I think Nashville is preferable.

It's a bit of a gamble hoping for Dallas to win. Dallas would have to be good enough to take out StL if StL beats WPG. But yeah, if everything goes Buffalo's way and Dallas wins the division, and CLB beats TOR/BOS, then Buffalo could pick as high as 17th.

I see I see, makes sense. Me thinks if the blues go down 3-2 tonight then I'll be pulling for the Stars. Roll the dice!!

 

[krt88nc]

How does Tampa and Calgary’s elimination help the Sabres if at all in the draft? We still need a Columbus or Colorado to go another round yes?

 

[Der Jaeger]

How does Tampa and Calgary’s elimination help the Sabres if at all in the draft? We still need a Columbus or Colorado to go another round yes?

If Vegas eliminates San Jose, it guarantees that a team with a lesser record than the Blues will go to the Western Conference finals.

So long as the Blues don't make the WCF, they bump down from 20 to 16-19 and it becomes the Sabres pick.

Root for Vegas and the Jets.

 

[krt88nc]

If Vegas eliminates San Jose, it guarantees that a team with a lesser record than the Blues will go to the Western Conference finals.

So long as the Blues don't make the WCF, they bump down from 20 to 16-19 and it becomes the Sabres pick.

Root for Vegas and the Jets.

jets look lost, let’s go Vegas

 

[Rowley Birkin]

jets look lost, let’s go Vegas

We need the Blues to lose against the Jets, or whoever they play assuming they beat the Jets.

That probably means Nashville IMO.

Of course I'm rooting for the Jets anyway.

 

[Djp]

If Vegas eliminates San Jose, it guarantees that a team with a lesser record than the Blues will go to the Western Conference finals.

So long as the Blues don't make the WCF, they bump down from 20 to 16-19 and it becomes the Sabres pick.

Root for Vegas and the Jets.

Because of the 4 teams below ( dallas, vegas, Colorado, and Columbus) 2 woukd face each other the next round. The most in 3 to advance pushing St. Louis from 20 to only 17-19 with the loser of vegas- Colorado being below them at 16.

 

[MackAttack26]

Blues dominating Jets.

Looking likely we will need Stars (or Preds) to upset Blues in Round 2 if we want that pick to be 17/18/19 instead of 28+.

 

[Goathead]

Blues dominating Jets.

Looking likely we will need Stars (or Preds) to upset Blues in Round 2 if we want that pick to be 17/18/19 instead of 28+.

I don’t see either of Dallas or Nashville posing much threat to the blues the way they are playing.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I don’t see either of Dallas or Nashville posing much threat to the blues the way they are playing.

Bishop is the best goalie in the playoffs so far, and the Dallas top line is power, which is what you need to get through STL.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

Jets down 2-0 and being outshot 27-6 through 2.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

At least I'm feeling better about Dallas playing StL in the next round.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

I was kind of counting on the Jets to knock STL out when I saw that matchup, but they never got their s*** together in the playoffs.

I’m not sure how confident I am in Dallas (or NSH with the way they’re playing) beating STL now. Hoping for the best...

I really wish Botterill could have somehow just kept the better of the 2 picks so I didn’t have to worry about this. But hey, at least it makes the playoffs more exciting with something on the line for Buffalo.

 

[MagnumForce2]

I was kind of counting on the Jets to knock STL out when I saw that matchup, but they never got their s*** together in the playoffs.

I’m not sure how confident I am in Dallas (or NSH with the way they’re playing) beating STL now. Hoping for the best...

I really wish Botterill could have somehow just kept the better of the 2 picks so I didn’t have to worry about this. But hey, at least it makes the playoffs more exciting with something on the line for Buffalo.

Usually the team that is dealing the draft pick sets the conditions on the pick. Obviously it would have been better for the Sabres to retain the lower of the 2 picks.. I am surprised that Anaheim didn't push harder to set conditions that included all 3 of our 1st round picks ...like maybe in the event that St Louis and San Jose meet in the conference final...Anaheim would get Buffalo's 1st round pick.

 

[jcbeze]

Usually the team that is dealing the draft pick sets the conditions on the pick. Obviously it would have been better for the Sabres to retain the lower of the 2 picks.. I am surprised that Anaheim didn't push harder to set conditions that included all 3 of our 1st round picks ...like maybe in the event that St Louis and San Jose meet in the conference final...Anaheim would get Buffalo's 1st round pick.

Lol at that last part....4/20 was yesterday