St. Louis and San Jose Watch (1st round picks)

[Snippit]

Think we had this thread in 2015 so it deserves another go (hopefully we actually use all our picks this time)

Reminder that we have both teams picks, however:

- St. Louis 2019 1st becomes a 2020 1st if they finish in the bottom 10
- San Jose 2019 1st becomes a 2020 1st if they fail to make the playoffs

The sweet spot for the Blues pick is 11th last, and the hope is that San Jose eeks into the playoffs to give us a pick around #16

Looking at St. Louis's division it'll be a battle for them to make the playoffs. All the Central teams seem to keep winning.

Blues are currently getting hammered by Columbus 7-3.

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[The Wizz]

I thought San Jose traded their 2020 1st for Karlson, which locks their 2019 pick as ours regardless.

 

[Snippit]

I thought San Jose traded their 2020 1st for Karlson, which locks their 2019 pick as ours regardless.

If SJ misses the playoffs it goes to Ottawa and we get 2020. If SJ makes the playoffs we get 2019.

 

[Dirty Dog]

God does Allen look bad. Blues may make up some ground once he starts to get benched more often

 

[The Wizz]

If SJ misses the playoffs it goes to Ottawa and we get 2020. If SJ makes the playoffs we get 2019.

Ahh my mistake

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

If SJ misses this year, I could see them really crapping the bed in 2020.

 

[The Wizz]

So in order for Buffalo to maximize it's odds of getting the 1st, 2nd, and/or 3rd overall picks in 2020, we want the Blues to finish just outside the bottom 10 this year and San Jose to miss the playoffs, and then have both of them completely fall apart in 2020?

Would it be better to have three picks this year regardless or two unprotected picks in 2020? What are the draft year strengths?

 

[Zip15]

God does Allen look bad. Blues may make up some ground once he starts to get benched more often

Except that means playing Chad Johnson more. That ain't it.

 

[Gabrielor]

I'm looking at San Jose, and I think, if we're lucky, that pick is 28-29. I don't think anyone is beating them until round 3.

The blues on the other hand, if they don't fix goaltending quick, that pick could be the 11-15 dream.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Except that means playing Chad Johnson more. That ain't it.

Touché

 

[Zip15]

Touché

They just need to call up Husso. He's off to a rocky start this year, but he went .920 and .922 in his first two AHL seasons. Give him the job in St. Louis and see if he runs with it. It can't be any worse for them at this point.

 

[EichHart]

I'm looking at San Jose, and I think, if we're lucky, that pick is 28-29. I don't think anyone is beating them until round 3.

The blues on the other hand, if they don't fix goaltending quick, that pick could be the 11-15 dream.

4 picks in the top 50 of this years draft with the rest of the talent we have on this team. We are well on our way to being a perennial playoff team!

 

[Gabrielor]

4 picks in the top 50 of this years draft with the rest of the talent we have on this team. We are well on our way to being a perennial playoff team!

3. We don't have our 2nd (Skinner trade).

 

[DolanPlsGoSabres]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SJ pick goes to OTT if they miss the playoffs this year (thus guaranteeing 2020 1st to BUF), and vice versa right?

 

[Moskau]

St. Louis is the new Philadelphia right down to constantly choosing to let the better goalie walk in favor of a worse goalie.

They'll turn it around and at least challenge for spot but they're sure as shit not winning their division and unless they pull a Devan Dubnyk horseshoe out of their ass they're likely giving us a mid teens pick.

 

[Gabrielor]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SJ pick goes to OTT if they miss the playoffs this year (thus guaranteeing 2020 1st to BUF), and vice versa right?

Yes.

 

[Ralonzo]

The sweet spot for the Blues pick is 11th last, and the hope is that San Jose eeks into the playoffs to give us a pick around #16

Dunno... I'd almost rather get an unprotected 2020 from STL than have 2019 #10OA. Especially the way that team is trending. Still #11 is a lottery ticket. But what if the Sabres ended up with both picks deferred to 2020 and get potentially 2 shots at a top 3 in 2020 (their own would be out of the lottery )? A chance at Lafrenier or Byfield or Guhle 2.0?

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

Dunno... I'd almost rather get an unprotected 2020 from STL than have 2019 #10OA. Especially the way that team is trending. Still #11 is a lottery ticket. But what if the Sabres ended up with both picks deferred to 2020 and get potentially 2 shots at a top 3 in 2020 (their own would be out of the lottery )? A chance at Lafrenier or Byfield or Guhle 2.0?

Give me a teens draft pick one year earlier rather than a complete unknown next year any day of the week.

 

[Yultron]

There’s no way the Blues will be this bad all season . They are going too pick up the pace at some point . They are just too talented

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

There’s no way the Blues will be this bad all season . They are going too pick up the pace at some point . They are just too talented

Yes they wont be bottom 5, just outside the playoffs, which is all we need

 

[HaNotsri]

I just hope we keep the picks this time. ELC players will be huge for us in 21/22.
Imagine finding a couple of top 4 d or a 2C with those picks...

 

[Yultron]

Yes they wont be bottom 5, just outside the playoffs, which is all we need

Exactly that’s just what we want . I want them to finish 11-13th so we can draft Ryan Suzuki

 

[MayDay]

Having three firsts is good no matter where they wind up being.

I think we're at the point of the rebuild where we no longer NEED to be at the very top to get the elite cornerstones, since we got those. Now we need to keep filling out the organization with a steady pipeline of quality depth. Extra mid-to-late first rounders should help nicely with that.

All that said, yeah, I have more hope for the St. Louis pick more likely being in the 11-20 range. That would be perfect.

 

[Reddawg]

I can’t help but thinking how incredible it would be if STL misses and we win a lottery with their pick. After making the playoffs ourselves, of course.

 

[MayDay]

I can’t help but thinking how incredible it would be if STL misses and we win a lottery with their pick. After making the playoffs ourselves, of course.

If their 2019 pick wins the lottery, it would be in the top 10 so they would keep it, and we would get their 2020 first instead.

I would assume that "top-ten protection" refers to the final Draft order (after the lottery).