Value of: Something happening with Jake Allen?

[dirtydanglez]

If the Avs are trading for Monahan as the answer to their 2C woes, then they have thrown in the towel IMO.

Monahan is better than RyJo (especially at the caphit). But that's not saying much.

theyre 4th in the league and don't even have .900 goaltending. i dont think monahan makes or breaks them either way. the heavy lifting is going to be done by their big line.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

theyre 4th in the league and don't even have .900 goaltending. i dont think monahan makes or breaks them either way. the heavy lifting is going to be done by their big line.

The big line is gonna be gassed in the playoffs as they will be relied upon to play half the game.

 

[pth2]

If the Avs are trading for Monahan as the answer to their 2C woes, then they have thrown in the towel IMO.

Monahan is better than RyJo (especially at the caphit). But that's not saying much.

Well, if Lindholm isn't an option for whatever reason, Monahan gives them some measure of offensive depth, and I suspect he'd do well behind the Avs super-top-line that will attract most defensive coverage and game plan considerations.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Well, if Lindholm isn't an option for whatever reason, Monahan gives them some measure of offensive depth, and I suspect he'd do well behind the Avs super-top-line that will attract most defensive coverage and game plan considerations.

I am not sold. But i have observed the following:

1. Early in the season Monahan was a play driver who initiated contact.
2. Half way through the season Monahan avoids contact and doesn't drive play (but doesn't have linemates either)

I suspect Monahan is preserving himself to minimize potential for injury. He looked so good in the first 10 - 15 games. Then looked tired / less engaged. I think he has the ability to be effective but is scared to get injured.

 

[Natey]

Exactly mate. Binnington was a newbie. Sheltered starts etc during the season. Allen has value and I stand by the fact that he fits well in a split workload system. Montreal is getting heavy on him I think with this three goalie rotation where he plays maybe once a week

Don't be stupid. Making shit up because you're too lazy too look it up gives us Habs fans a bad name.

 

[Scintillating10]

I could see a team being more open to paying that if there was retention involved.

Habs might retain? According to terms.

We'll probably trade Allen, Monahan and one of Savard or Kovacevic.

 

[Qwijibo]

I am not sold. But i have observed the following:

1. Early in the season Monahan was a play driver who initiated contact.
2. Half way through the season Monahan avoids contact and doesn't drive play (but doesn't have linemates either)

I suspect Monahan is preserving himself to minimize potential for injury. He looked so good in the first 10 - 15 games. Then looked tired / less engaged. I think he has the ability to be effective but is scared to get injured.

He had good chemistry with Pearson. I don’t think it's a coincidence that he called off in the wake of Pearson's injury

 

[pth2]

I am not sold. But i have observed the following:

1. Early in the season Monahan was a play driver who initiated contact.
2. Half way through the season Monahan avoids contact and doesn't drive play (but doesn't have linemates either)

I suspect Monahan is preserving himself to minimize potential for injury. He looked so good in the first 10 - 15 games. Then looked tired / less engaged. I think he has the ability to be effective but is scared to get injured.

He might have sprained something, and it made him realize that he'd have trouble getting another contract if he missed significant time once again. I think summer 2023 when he only got a 1-year contract at a greatly reduced salary must have hit home.

 

[TheNumber4]

Value is in the tank after being pretty solid in relief of Price. Play has been going gradually downhill and has had some injuries. Not a bad guy in a backup role, especially to support and/or mentor a young starter. Not much value in real terms unless we take a contract dump in return and/or retain on his deal which is 3.85 mil until 2025. He has a NTC subject to his list of teams. I'd say for straight-up trade, we'd be very lucky to get a late 4th, but not likely. So not much value for JA at this point, IMO.

True. Very lucky to get a 4th. Playoff teams are looking for good goaltending and good value. Allen does not represent that at this point. I’d peg his value at a 6th which is what Blackwood cost last year.

Jake Allen, just for the record, played 24 minutes of the Blues cup run, faced four shots, and put up a .750. He was a glorified water boy.

As you were.

Sir, I think you may have just murdered any little value Allen had.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Jake Allen is not going to fix that

hes a better plan b than prosvetov. its unlikely the avs move on from georgiev mid season.

 

[BLNY]

Friedman was on Marek show said Hughes ask for Allen is just short of extortion

I mean, if you don't ask you won't get.

 

[seafoam]

Varlamov has been hurt for a little bit. It’s not expected to be long term but if it becomes long term I could see the Islanders interested if the cost is low (think like a 3rd/4th).

 

[Scintillating10]

I mean, if you don't ask you won't get.

A 2nd round pick not really that high. Considering shortage of netminding this season and Allen good money goalie

 

[BLNY]

A 2nd round pick not really that high. Considering shortage of netminding this season and Allen good money goalie

Goalie market is always hard to gauge. Allen's been a bit inconsistent this year in the 3-goalie scenario. Allen struggled last year, but early on with Montreal, while replacing Price, he was great. Is he a true #1? Not likely. But, he plays his best when he plays more. On a team that gives up a lot fewer high danger chances than Montreal has since the cup run, I think his numbers jump a fair bit.

 

[NobleSix]

Friedman was on Marek show said Hughes ask for Allen is just short of extortion

Yeah, and that's not really surprising. They're really in no rush to trade him. Hughes is hoping a team becomes desperate enough to pay a high price for him before the deadline. Likely hoping for the off chance a team who is in the playoff race suffers an injury and has resort to making a trade to save their season.

The asking price will likely become a lot more reasonable as the deadline approaches.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I think expectation from the Habs POV is retention will be provided with the remaining retention slot. But nothing crazy. More like 750K ish.

why would they do that? They’ve got one retention spot left this year, why wouldn’t they maximize the value of that retention spot.

It seems like a stupid idea to use that last spot and not use it in a way that’s going to maximize its value.

Can you explain why you think it’s a good idea to only retain 750k instead of either offering max retention to bring more value or use it on another player who can bring more value with more retention?

 

[Scintillating10]

Goalie market is always hard to gauge. Allen's been a bit inconsistent this year in the 3-goalie scenario. Allen struggled last year, but early on with Montreal, while replacing Price, he was great. Is he a true #1? Not likely. But, he plays his best when he plays more. On a team that gives up a lot fewer high danger chances than Montreal has since the cup run, I think his numbers jump a fair bit.

A 2nd be 60th overall. Team most likely be Kings or Canes. Not really giving up much. .

 

[AslanRH]

He did really well shutting down forwards, especially the Oloffson line last night.
Stoned Jones at least once and kept MacDermid from pushing in any rebounds.

 

[BLNY]

A 2nd be 60th overall. Team most likely be Kings or Canes. Not really giving up much. .

No, and I'd take that. It's just a very polarizing and volatile position to value.

 

[Scintillating10]

No, and I'd take that. It's just a very polarizing and volatile position to value.

I might take 60th pick in draft for Allen but won't retain

 

[ole ole]

Jake Allen is not going to fix that

If the Avs want a goalie, they would be wanting a starter, Allen is a career backup

He can't handle a starters role

Tell us something we don't know.

 

[Scintillating10]

Good chance Habs have 3 goalies next season. It's worked out well

 

[Guy Larose]

I might take 60th pick in draft for Allen but won't retain

Why do people talk as if they're the GM around here? Lmao

 

[Scintillating10]

Colorado maybe good fit for Allen. We give them their 2nd back get their first?

 

[nhlfan9191]

I might take 60th pick in draft for Allen but won't retain

If we aren’t retaining on the contract, I’d take a mid round pick for Allen. Anything more would be a plus in my opinion.