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Reinier first as a pro
How has he been this season? Still high on his potential?
Reinier first as a pro
How has he been this season? Still high on his potential?
Best of his French generation perhaps. It's nearly impossible to claim any U17 talent to be the best in the world. They all compete at so many different levels. Anyone who does needs to put down the homer goggles.
Are there any good strikers from the German lower leagues that should be on peoples radars?
Do you rate Evina better than Zirkzee? I noticed that Bayern II kept Zirkzee over Evina for this season and has been giving him minutes.Depends on what you mean by lower leagues. There are some kids that could get some NT caps in the BuLi2, but the only one coming to mind below that who is already playing above the youth level & should start making noise in the near future would be Franck Evina...only, he opted for Cameroon this past winter...
David Otto is on loan in the 2nd division, and I've always liked him. Not world-class unless he can get there in a Klose-y way; i.e. via hyper-efficiency...but a Volland-esque ceiling of NT-backup caliber forward is certainly possible and I might be higher on him than I am Selke in the long run if I had to bet on one of them to actually contribute to the NT...as I can totally see Selke spending a while as the token "plan B" striker...but realistically I still think that Otto is more in line with the Füllkrug & Uth's of the world than with the Kruse & Stindl's.
Other BuLi2 strikers that have some fans in german youth football include Krüger, Serra, & Knöll, but I don't really rate the last two and between injuries & stagnation, I don't see a NT future for Krüger either...although he could still put it together later to become an Uth or Füllkrug caliber player. When it comes to pure strikers with NT-starter potential our top prospects are still Moukoko, Eggestein & Arp.
Though there are a lot more wingers / shadow strikers with NT-claiber talent; who could end up leading the line for us (like Gnabry currently is). That list is much denser; featuring the likes of Batista Meier, Dajaku, Kühn, Massimo, & Yeboah, starting to make the jump to the senior level...alongside the likes of Hartmann, Dardai, Jastrzembski, Goller, Herrmann, Pohlmann, Bias & Biskup, who also have NT potential; although I'm not nearly as high on them as the first set.
Plus there are the next age groups, many of whom (also) see a lot of their top talents occupying winger/2nd striker/AM -spots...kids like Mika Schroers, Luca Barata, Lazar Samardzic, Mehmet-Can Aydin, David Hummel, etc.
Do you rate Evina better than Zirkzee? I noticed that Bayern II kept Zirkzee over Evina for this season and has been giving him minutes.
Yeah I remember we spoke briefly about Dajaku before you took your hiatus as well as a few others. I'll keep an eye on them thanks!I see the dutchman as a lot more of a pure 9 type player at the senior level, while Evina I see as a forward who will be able to thrive all across a front 3; so it can be a little tricksy to compare them...
...but I definitely rate Evina more than Zirkzee, even if I focus on comparing them to what they are. I've never really been all that high on Zirkzee, while Evina has pretty much always impressed me in some way when I've watched his matches...plus I prefer his archetype. The skill, tenacity/craftiness & burst are there in spades to become an impact player if he wants it & isn't derailed by injuries / poor-career-choices.
I'm pretty sure that that is why, instead of keeping him with Bayern II; which had just been promoted to the 3rd division; he was loaned to a club that finished comfortably in the middle of the 3rd division table last season...a club for whom he has 4 goals & an assist after 7 games; in which he has averaged more than 80min/game.
That said, I do think Dajaku has moved ahead of Evina over the past year & has really made a push for OBM's title of the most exciting german 2001er...although I still rate OBM's potential more. So Bayern poaching Dajaku, on top of adding Davies, is probably what forced Evina to need a loan, instead of splitting his time between training with Bayern & playing for Bayern II -- with the potential for 1st team cameos -- like Batista-Meier, Davies & Dajaku are doing this season.
Yeah I remember we spoke briefly about Dajaku before you took your hiatus as well as a few others. I'll keep an eye on them thanks!
Lars Lukas Mai actually really intrigues me. I've not seen as much of him as I'd like, but when I have he's the closest thing to a van Dijk comparison I have seen at youth level. Very big, seems extremely calm, good on the ball and commanding in his zone. Maybe I'm wrong and just caught some good games but I can't see him not becoming at least a very good player.Yeah, I had heard some things about Stuttgart's academy that gave credence to my concerns about the players they'd been producing being able to adapt to other styles of play; prior to some changes they've made recently(ish). So I was a little skeptical of Dajaku & Hummel actually making the most of their talent when all was said & done as I was skeptical that they had changed enough, but both had shown serious talent & Dajaku has done nothing but prove his quality so far...neither has Hummel either really, he's just not as far along as Dajaku. So I've been warming up to both of them & Dajaku in particular.
It'll be interesting to see if Bayern does end up rebuilding their 1st team through the transfer front, or if their stubbornness about adapting to the market causes them to stumble ass-backward into another clutch of "homegrown" starters; with the likes of Dajaku, Arp & Davies sure to be branded with that label if they become stars after having spent "some" time with Bayern II...not to mention that Mai & OBM would actually deserve it.
Lars Lukas Mai actually really intrigues me. I've not seen as much of him as I'd like, but when I have he's the closest thing to a van Dijk comparison I have seen at youth level. Very big, seems extremely calm, good on the ball and commanding in his zone. Maybe I'm wrong and just caught some good games but I can't see him not becoming at least a very good player.
Matheus Cunha is pretty good. Brazil's Olimpic team facing Chile (winning 3-1 so far, Matheus brace and Antony). The kid is pretty skilled, fast and has got a knack for scoring. Hopes Leipzig gives him more PT or maybe loan him out.
Yeah I know in the circle I visit that the Timber brothers are rated pretty highly.
. I see 10 starters that should make Oranje one day and usually I see no more than 2/3. Despite the score (1-2 loss), I've never seen that team play so dominant before. They put up 25 shots to just 3 from
Is the eleventh player that is not making the team the GK?
I think he'll get PT when the CL action kicks up. Leipzig play with two forwards and Cunha is one of their 4 options for those two spots. As Werner & Poulsen need to be rotated/get injured, Cunha & Schick will get their chances to show off.
gonna be fun watching them in the CL. They're my Bundesliga team since they got Nagelsmann
I'd have let Gravenberch finish the season in Ajax II. They've got plenty of midfielders at the moment and he didn't exactly dominate that league last season. I'm a believer in allowing for a 'big fish small pond' season to build confidence and identity -- not everyone needs it, obviously, but I think it helps more often than not, especially if he won't be getting first team minutes.Gravenberch (17), Lang (20) and Dest (18) just got promoted to Ajax I for the remainder of the season. Hoping to see more of them as they have been very impressive. Dest should be Ajax' first RB option. Lang is seen as Ziyech's successor. Gravenberch might see some minutes if Marin keeps stinking up the place.
I'd have let Gravenberch finish the season in Ajax II. They've got plenty of midfielders at the moment and he didn't exactly dominate that league last season. I'm a believer in allowing for a 'big fish small pond' season to build confidence and identity -- not everyone needs it, obviously, but I think it helps more often than not, especially if he won't be getting first team minutes.
Gravenberch (17), Lang (20) and Dest (18) just got promoted to Ajax I for the remainder of the season. Hoping to see more of them as they have been very impressive. Dest should be Ajax' first RB option. Lang is seen as Ziyech's successor. Gravenberch might see some minutes if Marin keeps stinking up the place.