His main knock is his offensive upside. He needs some development in his offensive IQ and creating offense. He has some great physical tools, but it hasn’t translated to this area yet. I would personally consider Heinola before Broberg, though there are players I like more than both.
HF Habs: So who would you like Habs to draft @ 15?
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His main knock is his offensive upside. He needs some development in his offensive IQ and creating offense. He has some great physical tools, but it hasn’t translated to this area yet. I would personally consider Heinola before Broberg, though there are players I like more than both.
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Habs Halifax
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I think Broberg is similar to Lavoie. Stock values that have slipped and buyer beware. Not saying they will bust cause I do like their games but their may be better picks who have higher ceilings and their stock values are increasing, not decreasing heading into the draft.
A55P2
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It's really too bad that Soderstrom is a RHD. It seems that most view him as better than Broberg, but I really don't see us drafting a RHD.
Mrb1p
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Heinola is much, much better than both and hes a LD (Though hes played a lot of RD.)
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Yeah I know, I sadly think he'll be taken before our pick so that's why I'm thinking about plan B, C, D.
Kudo Shinichi
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Heinola seems like a safe bet to become a top 4 D, but how likely is it that he becomes a top pairing defenseman?
i used to like both Peter and Frank Mahovlich when they were playing with us
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Can you really develop offensive IQ or hockey IQ? Isn't that something that is innate and particular to each player -- you either have it or you don't?
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Below, the 15th picks history (average or studs). From the 1979 entry until now. Up to you TT.
-McCrimmon (1979)
-MacInnis (1981)
-Errey (1983)
-Pederson (1986)
-Sakic (1987)
-Kovalev (1991)
-Lindgren (1993)
-Zubrus (1995)
-Nilsson (2003)
-Radulov (2004)
-Karlsson (2008)
-Holland (2009)
-Forbort (2010)
-JT Miller (2011)
-Ceci (2012)
-Pulock (2013)
-Larkin (2014)
-Senyshyn (2015)
-Kunin (2016)
-Brannstrom (2017)
-Denisenko (2018)
-McCrimmon (1979)
-MacInnis (1981)
-Errey (1983)
-Pederson (1986)
-Sakic (1987)
-Kovalev (1991)
-Lindgren (1993)
-Zubrus (1995)
-Nilsson (2003)
-Radulov (2004)
-Karlsson (2008)
-Holland (2009)
-Forbort (2010)
-JT Miller (2011)
-Ceci (2012)
-Pulock (2013)
-Larkin (2014)
-Senyshyn (2015)
-Kunin (2016)
-Brannstrom (2017)
-Denisenko (2018)
Megaforce
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Trade Turtle Tatar, Lady Gallagher and No Show Danault and the first rounder for McKinnon. Uniting him with Drouin would provide great offensive upside.
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admiralcadillac
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you shouls change your nickname to Megafail
I’ve never coached that level, but as a coach at a youth level in multiple sports, and a student at heart, I do believe hockey IQ, like any skill, can be developed.
Now, will he ever develop into Karlsson level offensive instincts? I think that is doubtful. I won’t deny IQ is somewhat innate and yeah, you have it or you don’t, at least when it comes to having this at an elite level.
Just as Mete will never have Weber’s shot, he can probably get it better than it is now. While IQ isn’t as tangible in terms of measurement, Broberg can, with coaching, improve his decision making if that is something all parties agree upon.
I do believe people will hit ceilings. He’s really still a kid though so I don’t think he’s done developing in all areas.
Mrb1p
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As safe as any. He has Markov like vision, his shot is actually really good and he can skate well. His puck handling is also beautiful.
Mrb1p
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I'd be thrilled with
Hughes, Kakko, Turcotte, Byram, Dach, Cozens, Boldy, Zegras, Podkolzin, Dorofeyev, Newhook, Heinola (12 players.)
I will be happy (Unless we pass on any of those above for.) with Poulin, McMichael, Soderstrom, Brink, Krebs, Caufield,
I will be mad as f*** at anything else. Maybe I'll add Harley to the 2nd group, I doubt it.
Hughes, Kakko, Turcotte, Byram, Dach, Cozens, Boldy, Zegras, Podkolzin, Dorofeyev, Newhook, Heinola (12 players.)
I will be happy (Unless we pass on any of those above for.) with Poulin, McMichael, Soderstrom, Brink, Krebs, Caufield,
I will be mad as f*** at anything else. Maybe I'll add Harley to the 2nd group, I doubt it.
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Drouin is a ***** and all three of those players are supperior to him when it comes to playing the game of hockey I hope this is a sarcastic post
I think if we're after a high end guy the best "bang for your buck" player (value prospect, stock might not be as high due to how much he played this year) would be Turcotte. I still expect him to get pick within the first ~7-8 picks but if he ends up falling a few spots he'd definitely be someone that i'd trade up for.
Tbh i'd even trade up to 7-8 to pick him. Don't think we have a shot at Byram.
Tbh i'd even trade up to 7-8 to pick him. Don't think we have a shot at Byram.
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Sterling Archer
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How similar are Juolevi and Broberg?
I don’t know enough about them to say but they seem very similar on paper.
I don’t know enough about them to say but they seem very similar on paper.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
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Scratching the first 9 off my list since no chance we’ll get a sniff. However, your 10, 11 and 12 are the same order for me.
Basically, my 5 at 15 are: Dorofeyev, Newhook, Heinola, Caufield and Soderstrom. Hopefully we got a shot at one of them.
