thewave
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If that's the case. What would it take, what would you do with the roster? Who would you trade?
So Babcock needs to go
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If that's the case. What would it take, what would you do with the roster? Who would you trade?
Dayjobdave
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This is a good point. We are not looking at a 5 game problem, we are looking at a 10 month problem with an off season to reflect and correct.
this team needs to look different coming out of the “family meeting.” If not this season is about to slip away
DarkKnight
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Do I repeat my previous comment? I’m not his defender, I said we’re only five games in, it’s October. I guess he was coach of the year last year at this point then.
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weems
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Hopefully he figures it out and turns this team around.
I will glady eat crow if he takes this team deep.
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Hopefully he figures it out and turns this team around.
I will glady eat crow if he takes this team deep.
Nice to know that that the players on the ice are treated as a constant, and this team only goes as far as the coach behind the bench takes them.
weems
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Would you like it if I also said I think the team could use some more sandpaper and I'm not totally sold on Dubas?
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The blame has to be shared. This team is no better than it was 2 years ago. I will say it's even worse. The hunger has gone from the kids since they were all given ridiculous contracts. The lesser lights have to wonder why these slugs are making that kind of money. Nothing has been done to improve the defense either on the ice or off and then there's Mr. Softee. We know that he'll let in one soft goal at the most inopportune time. Show Babcock the door for sure, but keep it open for Dubas and Shanahan. The GM was as big a mistake and that falls on Shanny. How often have we heard this Leaf slogan in the last 67 years, "Time to rebuild." Remember, "No guts no glory!" and this team has no guts, just a bunch of self-entitled babies both on and off the ice.
I think we have improved a lot over last season by getting rid of our questionable players and bringing in Barrie.
The reason why it's difficult to improve over last season is that Matthews and Marner were making their ELC contracts, and now they make over $20 million combined. So in a cap era, the fact that we're as good or better than we were last year, despite having to pay Matthews and Marner way more than we had to pay them last year, is a pretty good thing.
If Matthews and Marner were still on their ELC contracts right now, imagine how good our team could be. That's why last year was our best chance to really stack the roster. The fact that we didn't have to lose too much when Matthews and Marner transitioned to their big contracts is a credit to Dubas. It's hard to improve a team when you've got almost $20 million less in cap space to work with than the year before.
The reason why it's difficult to improve over last season is that Matthews and Marner were making their ELC contracts, and now they make over $20 million combined. So in a cap era, the fact that we're as good or better than we were last year, despite having to pay Matthews and Marner way more than we had to pay them last year, is a pretty good thing.
If Matthews and Marner were still on their ELC contracts right now, imagine how good our team could be. That's why last year was our best chance to really stack the roster. The fact that we didn't have to lose too much when Matthews and Marner transitioned to their big contracts is a credit to Dubas. It's hard to improve a team when you've got almost $20 million less in cap space to work with than the year before.
If Babcock is let go then who would be available to replace him? I do not exactly agree with how he is coaching the team but are there any better options out there?
KIWILEAFFAN
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Soldiers fight for their mates in it with them first and for most. Not money.
You would think the players getting huge money would at least try and do the same.
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Tim and Sid are thinking Babs system might be the problem, not the revolving door of Dmen....highest paid coach in the league, doesn't seem to be able to change or roll with the punches. Everyone involved these days, for the Leafs, seem to get their $$$ and don't seem to deliver any results...
stickty111
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Babcock has his 50 million bucks no matter what happens and his wife has the shopping she wanted. It is all academic now. Leaf brass like to make the big splash with the big bucks for star names. Sometimes it works......
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Dont forget we gave up a draft pick for Babcock also Haha
I guess there's a reason his time on Detroit was coming to an end...and of course the Leafs are the "beneficiaries"
I guess there's a reason his time on Detroit was coming to an end...and of course the Leafs are the "beneficiaries"
stickty111
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I'm not impressed with his coaching, and don't think he did anything great today either, but you take the win.
Bad starts will be common under him.
Bad starts will be common under him.
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Babcock's biggest flaw amidst everything else, is that he attempts to make a team play the way he wants them when they're designed to play a different style. He's got a team that has Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares and a bunch of mobile wingers as well as a top 3 blueline when it comes to mobility, yet his system dictates an overuse of the stretch pass when every observable metric has shown that controlled zone entries lead to not only more chances, but higher quality chances as well. He is and never has been the right man to lead this team and he should have never been given the 8 year term.
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