danyhabsfan
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Gambrell is a 2nd round pick.
So I could basically every player on Montreal for Labanc since he's a 6th round pick?
Gambrell is a 2nd round pick.
And why is that? What exactly has Gambrell done to lower his value? He played his first season in the AHL last season. He was almost a PPG. He was a PPG at Denver every season. He might not be fully NHL ready but that’s fine.So I could basically every player on Montreal for Labanc since he's a 6th round pick?
And why is that? What exactly has Gambrell done to lower his value? He played his first season in the AHL last season. He was almost a PPG. He was a PPG at Denver every season. He might not be fully NHL ready but that’s fine.
How about being a pro for 2 seasons and not being fully NHL ready? It’s not like 2 seasons pro is super long.being 23 years old and not being good in the NHL?
How about being a pro for 2 seasons and not being fully NHL ready? It’s not like 2 seasons pro is super long.
Josh Ho Sang has had 4 seasons to establish himself. Not only that Gambrell’s first season in the AHL was better than any other season that Ho Sang has had in the AHL. Not even close to comparable.We're also talking about a guy that's a season away from being in the Ho-Sang category. If he doesn't establish himself as an NHLer this season or next pre-season, he's waiver-wire fodder.
He's been real good in the AHL, but he has to take the next step now. And Montreal certainly doesn't have more roster space than San Jose to give him room to establish himself.
Josh Ho Sang has had 4 seasons to establish himself. Not only that Gambrell’s first season in the AHL was better than any other season that Ho Sang has had in the AHL. Not even close to comparable.
Terrible. Just awful. Dillon is likely worth around the same as Byron so no you aren’t getting a good prospect too
Trades like that don’t usually happen. Teams don’t trade one of their top ten prospects for bottom six players, even if they are solid at what they doAs I stated. I don't believe this is Byron's value, at all. Simply stating what the likely price would be from Mtl's POV. (An unproven young prospect with a higher ceiling than Byron (so a guy that could end up in the 40-55 pts per season range) but that isn't there yet.
Sadly for the Sharks, there's only 2-3 guys in your prospect pool that fit that bill.
The reason being that the Sharks get an immediate boost of a guy that's middle 6, 20G/15A type player on a retained contract for 4 more years. Whereas Montréal would be gambling on said prospect to pan out. Which carries uncertainty and risk, thus why the "higher ceiling" that would be asked for in a trade.
But I fully agree/understand that if Chmelevski does pan out, he'll be a much better player than Byron is.
There I would have to disagree.Trades like that don’t usually happen. Teams don’t trade one of their top ten prospects for bottom six players, even if they are solid at what they do
Mtl is definitely a no.
Byron will move up and down the lineup... like when he played with drouin and domi in the third period last night.
Hes also on the teams top pk unit and hes used in shootouts.
Hes a really important player and i dont see him as expendable at all
<whisper> have we tricked other teams into thinking Gambrell is good yet? </whisper>
He’s just not NHL ready and Pete is trying to shoehorn him into a role.<whisper> have we tricked other teams into thinking Gambrell is good yet? </whisper>
I definitely agree, just trolling a bit. His AHL scoring rate is promising, and I do think his best NHL days are in front of him (though I can't blame other fans for not assigning him value)He’s just not NHL ready and Pete is trying to shoehorn him into a role.
I think we will see what happens by the end of the season. I think he will figure something out.I definitely agree, just trolling a bit. His AHL scoring rate is promising, and I do think his best NHL days are in front of him (though I can't blame other fans for not assigning him value)
This is 100% a reactionary post. Just thought I’d clarify that before anyone else does. I think 3 trades would really improve this team. Also I am mainly thinking of this from the Sharks perspective. I tried to think from other side but don’t know needs/availability as well as fans. If I’m 100% wrong on needs/availability, is there a way to improve the trade?
To sharks: Paul Byron
To Habs: Melker+Gambrell
Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Domi-Suzuki
Drouin-Kotka-Armia
Melker-Thompson-Weal
Well if you actually read it you’d see the reasoning. I understand that I was mistaken. It’s not hard to see my reasoning though.What would the reason be that Montreal trades away a speedy two way forward who kills penalties and is a staple of the shootout while being good for 20 goals to add a fourth line winger when they already have numerous options for that job already (Nick Cousins on the big club, Dale Weise, Ryan Poehling, Matt Peca, Riley Barber in the AHL.)
I don't understand what reason Montreal would have to do this.
Well if you actually read it you’d see the reasoning. I understand that I was mistaken. It’s not hard to see my reasoning though.
He was on the fourth line. They got a cheaper fourth liner and a good prospect for someone on the fourth line. Is that hard to understand?I did read and I find your reasoning very difficult to understand. Your "reasoning" appears to be because he played on the fourth line on Saturday he is therefore "expendable" and if he's expendable than the Canadiens don't need or want to receive anything of actual value or help to them in return.
He was on the fourth line. They got a cheaper fourth liner and a good prospect for someone on the fourth line. Is that hard to understand?
Do you want to read my response to you again? I specifically said I was mistaken or is that too hard for you to understand?Very.
As explained Paul Byron is one of the fastest players in the league, scores 20 goals, kills penalties and plays a solid two way game. Getting a "cheaper fourth liner" for him is an awful return and adding Gambrell who is 23 and would be slotted in behind Montreal centre prospects in Kotkaniemi, Poehling and Suzuki who are all better and younger isn't addressing any needs either.
So yeah, it's hard to understand the 'reasoning' for Montreal making such a disastrous and one-sided trade.
Do you want to read my response to you again? I specifically said I was mistaken or is that too hard for you to understand?
I’m not the problem here. It’s not hard to read a post or a thread.Why are you being so hostile and aggressive?
Why ask a question if you are going to fly off the handle and get all riled up if you don't like the answer?
What's wrong with you?