Player Discussion Shea Weber: Oh Captain, My Captain Edition

[DangerDave]

4 years with this brittle overpaid overrated mountain man, and the habs will have seen a whopping 6 playoff games where he continued to not show up. what a horrid trade for bargainbin...BuT GuYs He HaS mOrE PtS tHaN sUbBaN tHiS year? Yah and? all the teams that got subban improved their teams, the teams that removed subban got worse. that's the fact. sick of weber.

Weber thread.

 

[Andrei79]

Wish we had traded Subban to the Canucks.

How did MB go from a rebuild trade to Edmonton to getting Weber, the logic hurts my brain.

 

[Pickles]

Injuries don't force a player to retire. The decision to retire or not is 100% on the player. Injuries can force a player to finish his career on the LTIR. To be honest if Weber can't play anymore and retires instead of going on the LTIR it means he doesn't give a **** about Nashville. He'll grab the remaining money imo.

He didn't give a shit about Nashville when he signed the offer sheet either.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

4 - 6 weeks is through mid March to the end of the season. Me finds it hard to believe he plays another game this year. After that, who knows? Maybe I missed it. Was there a specific event recently that caused this most recent injury?

Smokescreen.

It happened in the game against New Jersey. He tried to avoid a direct slapshot to the foot. It still managed to hit him but his movement was awkward. He left the ice skate-limping but came back.

 

[jordy]

I'm sick of Weber too. what a stupid trade.

4 years with this brittle overpaid overrated mountain man, and the habs will have seen a whopping 6 playoff games where he continued to not show up. what a horrid trade for bargainbin...BuT GuYs He HaS mOrE PtS tHaN sUbBaN tHiS year? Yah and? all the teams that got subban improved their teams, the teams that removed subban got worse. that's the fact. sick of weber.

 

[angusyoung]

It happened in the game against New Jersey. He tried to avoid a direct slapshot to the foot. It still managed to hit him but his movement was awkward. He left the ice skate-limping but came back.

If his injury is from an impact,sounds more like structural damage as opposed to tissue damage,better off cracking a bone than shredding tissue.

 

[ImNeverWrong]

I'm sick of Weber too. what a stupid trade.

. Him an price need to go asap. Literal anchors for progress

 

[angusyoung]

4 years with this brittle overpaid overrated mountain man, and the habs will have seen a whopping 6 playoff games where he continued to not show up. what a horrid trade for bargainbin...BuT GuYs He HaS mOrE PtS tHaN sUbBaN tHiS year? Yah and? all the teams that got subban improved their teams, the teams that removed subban got worse. that's the fact. sick of weber.

Yes indeed! the Devils are on fire,gonna sweep for the cup!. LMFAO.

 

[Per Sjoblom]

Yes indeed! the Devils are on fire,gonna sweep for the cup!. LMFAO.

 

[ImNeverWrong]

Yes indeed! the Devils are on fire,gonna sweep for the cup!. LMFAO.

The devils have actually improved from last year and been on a 93 pt pace after removing taylor hall. The habs have been miserable during webers entire tenure, keep being an apologist for a deplorable deal. Lol.

 

[Lshap]

The devils have actually improved from last year and been on a 93 pt pace after removing taylor hall. The habs have been miserable during webers entire tenure, keep being an apologist for a deplorable deal. Lol.

Habs got the better player in Weber. That debate has been settled. The problem wasn't the value-for-value swap, it was the missed opportunity to build around Weber or build a stronger future. Bergevin did neither.

The trade was good. It could've been great.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Habs got the better player in Weber. That debate has been settled. The problem wasn't the value-for-value swap, it was the missed opportunity to build around Weber or build a stronger future. Bergevin did neither.

The trade was good. It could've been great.

I’ll take “I don’t think so sir” for a thousand Alex.

 

[Lshap]

I’ll take “I don’t think so sir” for a thousand Alex.

Depends how you look at it. Player v. player Weber's overall contribution has been better over the four seasons. I mean, advantage might eventually go to Subban if Weber's done, but as of now Montreal comes out ahead.

On the other hand, it's fair to say the team didn't get better. Lose a #1D, gain a #1D. Net difference... hardly worth it. In that respect it was a huge opportunity lost. As usual with Bergevin, it comes down to his lack of team-building. Getting Weber could've been great if Bergevin kept Radulov and added another solid vet or two. Or it could've been great if he'd gotten a 1st-round pick/top prospect/upcoming star. Doing neither meant he created a lot of noise for nothing.

The one thing I admit drives me nuts is when someone ties the Habs decline to Weber, as if he was the reason the team sucked. That's just a lazy excuse. It's like saying we should've kept Therrien because the team was so much better under him than Julien. The lesson is you can acquire the better guy and still suck if the overall team has no plan.

 

[PaulD]

Wait, you mean to say Stares Weber and all his hard mileage is breaking down possibly beyond repair? Who would have saw that coming....shocking i say, shocking!

what we did not see is Subban turning into Elvis on skates, before Weber broke down.

 

[PaulD]

Yes indeed! the Devils are on fire,gonna sweep for the cup!. LMFAO.

Subban and the Devils are a minus on the powerplay when 76 is on it.

lol. Has that ever been done before ? Doubtful

"Too young to retire. Too fat to play"

 

[PaulD]

The devils have actually improved from last year and been on a 93 pt pace after removing taylor hall. The habs have been miserable during webers entire tenure, keep being an apologist for a deplorable deal. Lol.

and the habs were miserable the year before getting Weber.

 

[PaulD]

My shoe stopped but my foot inside the shoe didn't. The sudden force of my toe trying to eject itself from the end of the shoe caused enough pressure on the toe nail for it to rip right off. It's the same momentum you get when a car suddenly stops but you're still ejected forward, except it's your foot inside an enclosed shoe. It was extraordinarily painful.

I've played a lot of sports in my time. My worst injuries were always from basketball. All the sprinting & sudden stops, jumping, I had to stop playing because of chronic shin splits. I can't jump anymore. So now I hike, bike, occasionally play baseball, swim, nothing that puts too much strain on the lower legs.

The toe nail grew back.

Wow.

 

[EXPOS123]

Funny

what we did not see id Subban turning into Elvis on skates before Weber broke down.

Funny how everyone harps on Subban’s performance this year yet completely ignores the three previous years when he was in Nashville where he was a Norris trophy finalist and helped bring the team to the finals. Remind me again what Weber has brought us the past 4 years besides being “respected around the league”?

 

[the]

Funny

Funny how everyone harps on Subban’s performance this year yet completely ignores the three previous years when he was in Nashville where he was a Norris trophy finalist and helped bring the team to the finals. Remind me again what Weber has brought us the past 4 years besides being “respected around the league”?

He sucked last year also and the first year Weber was slightly better than him.

All PeeKay has on Weber was the 2nd year when he was a Norris finalist.

 

[Lshap]

Funny

Funny how everyone harps on Subban’s performance this year yet completely ignores the three previous years when he was in Nashville where he was a Norris trophy finalist and helped bring the team to the finals. Remind me again what Weber has brought us the past 4 years besides being “respected around the league”?

Weber has brought the Habs precisely as far as Claude Julien has. Does this make Therrien the better coach because the team was better when he was here?

 

[EXPOS123]

He sucked last year also and the first year Weber was slightly better than him.

All PeeKay has on Weber was the 2nd year when he was a Norris finalist.

So you still would rather have had Weber over Subban all these years?

 

[the]

So you still would rather have had Weber over Subban all these years?

At the time of the trade no but Weber has been the better player except for year 2 since the trade.

 

[EXPOS123]

Weber has brought the Habs precisely as far as Claude Julien has. Does this make Therrien the better coach because the team was better when he was here?

Dude he’s been injured 60% of his time here which is why he is a pilon the other 40% of the time he’s actually healthy enough to play. And that he has a slight uptick in points this year is not gonna make up for his increasing lack of mobility and speed.

 

[EXPOS123]

At the time of the trade no but Weber has been the better player except for year 2 since the trade.

How if he’s been injured 60% the of time

 

[PaulD]

Funny

Funny how everyone harps on Subban’s performance this year yet completely ignores the three previous years when he was in Nashville where he was a Norris trophy finalist and helped bring the team to the finals. Remind me again what Weber has brought us the past 4 years besides being “respected around the league”?

Sid Crosby could not bring this team to a finals.

Hart Trophy Carey Price with PK Subban in his prime won one lousy round (against the Sens lol) The team is that f***en bad.

Weber, Price, Subban. .......... all won f*** all in Montreal. I dont blame Price and Subban for any of that........nor do I blame Weber. They are the three best players the team has had in years .