Player Discussion Shea Weber: Oh Captain, My Captain Edition

[Mrb1p]

I guess it depends on which side you're on. It might be painful for the still optimistic fans here but for the tank/rebuild crowd it won't be painful at all to see them lose.

All it means is that bozo wont trade petry... so not so much.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I guess it depends on which side you're on. It might be painful for the still optimistic fans here but for the tank/rebuild crowd it won't be painful at all to see them lose.

Watching them lose is always painful for me, but I acknowledge the end result is a higher draft pick.

Problem is this team just seems to pick up more holes than they can fix.

2 years ago, no centers. Now no D, especially RD when that was a strength 2 years ago with Weber, Petry, & Juulsen, and Brook & Fleury in the system.

Our LD is ok since Romanov is on the horizon and we have Norlinder, Struble & Harris with Mete & Chiarot on the team for at least the next 2 years.

But, it's never ending with Bergevin/Timmins who have been incapable of getting any depth in this organization.

Look at Pittsburgh, they just traded Addison a good young prospect in order to get better.

Because of their success, they have one of the worst draft positions yet year after year they seem to be able to add young players to their team or trade them for assets that they need.

I mean next year they probably add Poulin to their lineup and they already signed Legare.

Meanwhile, we lose one guy in Weber and we're f***ed because there's no depth.

It's been 8 gawd damn years!

The whole thing is just damn depressing.

 

[Habs]

MB is a genius he knew that he had a mole in his entourage, so he gave different false information to potential moles and now that the information was communicated, he can get his hand on him.

All part of the plan.

Bergy probably already planning on which high priced FA he can sign and send to Laval!

 

[sheed36]

Watching them lose is always painful for me, but I acknowledge the end result is a higher draft pick.

Problem is this team just seems to pick up more holes than they can fix.

2 years ago, no centers. Now no D, especially RD when that was a strength 2 years ago with Weber, Petry, & Juulsen, and Brook & Fleury in the system.

Our LD is ok since Romanov is on the horizon and we have Norlinder, Struble & Harris with Mete & Chiarot on the team for at least the next 2 years.

But, it's never ending with Bergevin/Timmins who have been incapable of getting any depth in this organization.

Look at Pittsburgh, they just traded Addison a good young prospect in order to get better.

Because of their success, they have one of the worst draft positions yet year after year they seem to be able to add young players to their team or trade them for assets that they need.

I mean next year they probably add Poulin to their lineup and they already signed Legare.

Meanwhile, we lose one guy in Weber and we're ****ed because there's no depth.

It's been 8 gawd damn years!

The whole thing is just damn depressing.

Yes it is depressing. The Habs inability to draft and develop key NHL players especially under Lefebvre's watch all these years in the AHL really hurt the Habs and this is what you get. Things looking much better under Bouchard so they're on the right track there now it seems.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

Whew! At least Weber will be healthy in time for the playoffs

 

[habdynasty]

For a sprained ankle.Dr Mulder who has been head of surgery in Montreal General for decades can't diagnose a sprained ankle.Something not right here folks.I am no DR. but played hockey in my younger years.How in the world do you sprain an ankle in skates?

I believe it’s called the high ankle sprain in hockey , I’m no doctor so I don’t know much about it.

 

[NobleSix]

He wont play another game this season.

 

[HuGo Sham]

weber plays too much for his age - the wear and tear increases these risks. That's on bergevin, again for not insulating him AND - a situation, where it's basically petry and 5 depth guys. pathetic

 

[HuGo Sham]

He wont play another game this season.

agreed. he's done.

 

[peate]

Just another excuse for MB at the end-of-the-year press conference.

"We lost our captain at a crucial moment"

 

[MaxDummy]

Just another excuse for MB at the end-of-the-year press conference.

"We lost our captain at a crucial moment"

I mean... yeah it's true. We were already well out of it even without the injury tho

 

[Habs13]

Purple has his scapegoat for the season now... ohhh the injuries to broken Shea and speedy-but-useless Byron and... that other guy, yeah, those cost us the 25th Stanley Cup.

 

[MisterY]

Good news is he might be back for second round playoffs...

 

[jaffy27]

Saving this one for future reference, as you are pretty sure about this and I don’t want to read in the summer how you actually like crow and prefer to eat it

All we know is he’s done, essentially for the year.

who flies to a specialist for an ankle sprain?

They didn’t know it was an ankle sprain until the doctor told him so.

If you feel pain in the general area of where you had major surgery, you probably want to confirm that it is indeed a sprain and not an aggravation of your previous injury.

Weber should be back for the final2weeks of the season

 

[jaffy27]

Purple has his scapegoat for the season now... ohhh the injuries to broken Shea and speedy-but-useless Byron and... that other guy, yeah, those cost us the 25th Stanley Cup.

Perfect, it’ll be more fodder for some select posters here to feed on, at least 3 months of crying worth.

 

[jaffy27]

Kypreos doesn't just spew BS unlike the folks at RDS, TVA and TSN 690

Kypreos is full of it, they know damn well you can’t MRI the affected area if Swollen, they had no idea if it was tendon related.

 

[RandR]

Grabbing my tin foil hat, why do you have to fly to the States and meet with the same doctor who operated on you for a foot injury when it was something as common as an ankle sprain?

From the Canadiens' head physician himself, when asked in 2018 about how Weber's foot and knee injuries were handled...

When asked what he would say to people questioning the medical staff’s handling of the veteran defenceman, Mulder responded: “First of all, it’s a very unusual (foot) injury. No one has had a great deal of experience with it. I think if I was criticizing myself, I think we were a little bit slow to recognize the seriousness of the tendon injury. And then once we recognized it, we sought a second opinion in Canada and the second opinion didn’t have any experience operating. They referred us to Green Bay, to Dr. (Robert) Anderson. He’s done more (foot surgeries) than anybody in North America.”
Mulder was also asked why Weber’s meniscus damage to his knee hadn’t been spotted on earlier MRIs.
“We had three different radiologists read the MRI and I looked at it myself and I didn’t detect it,” he said. “It’s just that we’re all human beings and radiology isn’t a perfect science. I wish it was, but it’s not.”

Shea Weber's knee surgery raises questions about Canadiens

Mulder admitted they underestimated the severity of Weber's original foot injury. The most logical explanation is that once again the Habs medical staff weren't sure due to the nature of soft tissue injuries. They were wise enough to avoid putting an exact timeline on how long Weber would be out for when he got hurt last week. And then apparently after Weber wasn't getting better, like any good doctors, they referred Weber to see Dr Anderson again today.

The fact that it ended up being diagnosed as an ankle sprain doesn't mean that it didn't look as if could be more serious to the Habs doctors.

 

[jaffy27]

From the Canadiens' head physician himself, when asked in 2018 about how Weber's foot and knee injuries were handled...


Shea Weber's knee surgery raises questions about Canadiens

Mulder admitted they underestimated the severity of Weber's original foot injury. The most logical explanation is that once again the Habs medical staff weren't sure due to the nature of soft tissue injuries. They were wise enough to avoid putting an exact timeline on how long Weber would be out for when he got hurt last week. And then apparently after Weber wasn't getting better, like any good doctors, they referred Weber to see Dr Anderson again today.

The fact that it ended up being diagnosed as an ankle sprain doesn't mean that it didn't look as if could be more serious to the Habs doctors.

All they had to do is cut through the BS and get the opinions of all the HF doctors....if anyone knows, it’s them!!

 

[azcanuck]

some posters were saying he needed to retire to preserve his health!

Others were saying it tilted the trade in favor of PK!!

Career ending!!!

Calm down Sally.

 

[hockeyfan2k18]

Plays a lot on a BAD team. Poor guy.

 

[Per Sjoblom]

It's starting to make sense. Kypros reported that Habs thought it was "tendon" issue. Well, an Achilles tendon tear probably is a career ender for someone like Weber.

Any Achilles injury could be reported as an ankle sprain. Habs aren't getting specific. Hopefully, it means if it is the tendon that's sprained it also doesn't have a partial tear.

No way Weber is back this year nevermind 4 weeks.

6 weeks puts it to the last week of the schedule. Montreal will be out by then so they'll be no reason to bring him back.

It's unfortunate that Juulsen's health has also taken a turn for the worse as he looked like he had top 4 upside.

With no Weber our right side is now Petry & Folin. Yikes!

These final 24 games could be really painful.

I was unfortunate enough to witness a full blown achilles tendon rupture when watching a handball game as a teenager (fairly large sport in Sweden). I still shudder at the thought and especially the sound I remember, it sounded really loud, like a bang. I thought someone needled a large balloon or something, and almost at the same time the scream of the player from the pain.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I was unfortunate enough to witness a full blown achilles tendon rupture when watching a handball game as a teenager (fairly large sport in Sweden). I still shudder at the thought and especially the sound I remember, it sounded really loud, like a bang. I thought someone needled a large balloon or something, and almost at the same time the scream of the player from the pain.

My friend tore his too while playing badminton. He had surgery within 2 days as they wanted to reduce the swelling.

Tendons are tough to heal and an Achilles tendon tear is a long rehab. A player of Weber's age, it's probably game over.

If it's a high ankle sprain they can also be tough to come back from. He has 6 months now, so he should be able to come back ok while still having his summer to train.

You have to wonder about all these foot & ankle issues though. Forsberg was forced into retirement because of his.

It's starting to look/sound like something that will be chronic. If he goes out next year with the same thing again we'll have our answer.

 

[Hins77]

This is a common thing if Weber had an appointment with his last surgeon. The moment you have a surgery with a surgeon, » you will die with this surgeon ». I mean. No one surgeon will wants to work on a part of you body, if another surgeon have already work on it. This is how medecine works. So, if weber came back in green bay. Its just because he had problem again with his ankle. No one doctor in montreal will wants to work on his ankle by now. Since his last surgery with this guy.

 

[Per Sjoblom]

My friend tore his too while playing badminton. He had surgery within 2 days as they wanted to reduce the swelling.

Tendons are tough to heal and an Achilles tendon tear is a long rehab. A player of Weber's age, it's probably game over.

If it's a high ankle sprain they can also be tough to come back from. He has 6 months now, so he should be able to come back ok while still having his summer to train.

You have to wonder about all these foot & ankle issues though. Forsberg was forced into retirement because of his.

It's starting to look/sound like something that will be chronic. If he goes out next year with the same thing again we'll have our answer.

I had problems with my achilles tendons (both actually). I went to my doctor and got sent to a specialist and then I got therapy. The first and second time they gave me shot with blood thinner and an ultrasound massage. I went twice a week and I was also taught how to workout to help healing the tendons like stretching the feet in certain ways. It took very long, both my tendons felt a bit convex and there was a swollen part in the middle that was very tender to the touch and in approx 1 month all the pain was gone and in about 6 months the tendons looked normal again. I was lucky to have a friend who was a physician and he told me if I didn't treat it they would most likely rupture and I am a bit dumb when it comes to going to the doctor (a male pattern in my family) trying to say: "that's nothing, a little pain can't hurt"

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I had problems with my achilles tendons (both actually). I went to my doctor and got sent to a specialist and then I got therapy. The first and second time they gave me shot with blood thinner and an ultrasound massage. I went twice a week and I was also taught how to workout to help healing the tendons like stretching the feet in certain ways. It took very long, both my tendons felt a bit convex and there was a swollen part in the middle that was very tender to the touch and in approx 1 month all the pain was gone and in about 6 months the tendons looked normal again. I was lucky to have a friend who was a physician and he told me if I didn't treat it they would most likely rupture and I am a bit dumb when it comes to going to the doctor (a male pattern in my family) trying to say: "that's nothing, a little pain can't hurt"

Yeah, I'm like that. lol.

Ignored it when I tore my groin playing basketball. I was sprinting like hell with the ball then suddenly stopped. My big toe nail exploded in my shoe so that was my immediate concern. Lots of blood.

Next morning, I couldn't walk without extreme pain. I figured no problem. Rest & ice. Except it kept getting worse and worse until I couldn't walk at all. Finally went to the doctor. It took 8 months for me to walk normally again. My toe nail had grown back by then.