Prospect Info: Sharks Prospect Info & Discussion Thread XVII

[LadyStanley]

Congrats Daniil

USHL Announces All-USHL Teams for 2020-21 Season

 

[sub_zero94]

Times may be changing. Gush is a guy I really hope works out

I'd like for him to be able to come in to camp and be around Barabanov .. Just to absorb some knowledge if anything else . Both smallish with off the charts hockey sense/skill sets.

 

[Lebanezer]

Fohr quickly noticed that Bordeleau takes faceoffs differently than is typically taught in North America, too. Sébastien, who was known as a faceoff specialist in his time in the NHL, taught his son how to take draws with both hands.
“(Bordeleau) was our best faceoff guy hands down,” Fohr said. “He actually flips his stick over to the opposite side and pulls both sides of draws back like he’s on his strong side. You don’t see that very often. He’s a lefty but he’ll take faceoffs as a righty and pull it straight back.”

Interesting quote from a piece on Bordeleau last year. I had no idea that he was so good at faceoffs.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Interesting quote from a piece on Bordeleau last year. I had no idea that he was so good at faceoffs.

I know the common thinking is that Bordeleau will be a winger in the NHL, but I can’t help but feel like he has a decent shot at staying at center.

 

[Gecklund]

I know the common thinking is that Bordeleau will be a winger in the NHL, but I can’t help but feel like he has a decent shot at staying at center.

I think his ceiling is either top line winger or good 2C but if he could turn into Hertl or Point that would be fun.

 

[hohosaregood]

I think his ceiling is either top line winger or good 2C but if he could turn into Hertl or Point that would be fun.

I think it mostly depends on what level he can get his skating to. Overall, he seems like a pretty complete player already with his skating being a moderate question mark. Other than that, it'll be how polished can he get his skillset.

 

[LadyStanley]

Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy

Ozzy's goal was bite off a bats head onstage sick

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Ozzy's goal was bite off a bats head onstage sick

He beat Dyck hard there

 

[Legionnaire11]

Looking for info on players who made their NHL debut last season. What kind of future outlook do these guys have?

Alexander Chmelevski
Ivan Chekhovich
John Leonard
Josef Korenar
Alexei Melnichuk
Nicolas Meloche
Jeffrey Viel
Brinson Pasichnuk
Fredrik Handemark

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

Looking for info on players who made their NHL debut last season. What kind of future outlook do these guys have?

Alexander Chmelevski
Ivan Chekhovich
John Leonard
Josef Korenar
Alexei Melnichuk
Nicolas Meloche
Jeffrey Viel
Brinson Pasichnuk
Fredrik Handemark

Outside of Leonard id say its looking grim. Handemark go bye bye

 

[Cas]

Looking for info on players who made their NHL debut last season. What kind of future outlook do these guys have?

Alexander Chmelevski
Ivan Chekhovich
John Leonard
Josef Korenar
Alexei Melnichuk
Nicolas Meloche
Jeffrey Viel
Brinson Pasichnuk
Fredrik Handemark

Chmelevski spent a lot of time on the taxi squad, playing 32 games between the Sharks and Barracuda. He struggled early (also true last season) but heated up later in the season with the Barracuda after he was moved to wing. He played three of the Sharks last four games and looked much more NHL-ready. His age-adjusted NHLe scoring rates project him to be a 30-40 point player in his prime - roughly a third line player. I expect him to get some serious looks next season that will determine whether he winds up as a third or fourth line player, but I don't expect him to be a full-time NHL player in 21-22.

Chekhovich had a very poor 19-20 season in the AHL and went home to Russia, where he had an excellent season in the KHL before returning to North America. His Barracuda performance wasn't particularly impressive, and he got a few games with the Sharks where he hung in there and showed some offensive flash, but otherwise didn't make waves. His age-adjusted NHLe scoring rates for the last two seasons project him to be a 25-30 point winger in his prime, but he likely doesn't have the skill set to be a fourth line player. He's a third-line winger if he succeeds (and if he really breaks out could be the third wheel on a top-six line), a career European player if he doesn't.

Leonard looked like a rookie, but he has good speed, decent defensive skills, and some offensive talent. He took a nasty hit late in the season and never returned, so hopefully he suffers no long-term ill effects from that. His age-adjusted NHLe scoring rates have never been particularly impressive - he projects to be a 25-30 point winger in his prime, so he's looking like a bottom-six winger. However, he has the defensive acumen to play in a fourth line role, and provides a little bit of scoring punch, so he can play on the third line.

Viel is a fourth line grinder/enforcer. He doesn't have much scoring punch and doesn't appear to play a really strong defensive game - his key skill is hitting other guys, either with his body or his fists. I'm sure he'll keep getting jobs with teams looking for someone to play that role for a few years, but he's never going to be anything more than that.

Händemark didn't really make an impression - he's a fourth line center who didn't look obviously out of place in the NHL, but also didn't do anything to justify keeping his spot either. He went back to Europe and is out of the Sharks' future plans. He has no real upside - he plays a quiet game focused on faceoffs and doesn't do a whole lot to make you remember he was in the game you just watched. I think he stays in Europe.

Meloche got in a few games and looks like he could be a bottom pair defenseman in the NHL - he didn't really make any serious errors, he's reasonably big and can play physically, and he has a decent shot but isn't an offense generator. I think he has a good chance to be the Sharks' #7 defenseman next season and I think has a career as a #6/7 tweener for a few years. He doesn't have the talent to do better than that, but that's better than a bust.

Pasichnuk played a few games with the Sharks, where he was kind of like a defensive equivalent to Händemark - he didn't really do anything to be noticed. On the plus side, that means he didn't really make too many mistakes, but the downside to that is that he didn't really create any offense (though he was never really given much of a chance to do that - no power play time, anchored to the black hole that is Vlasic, etc). He should get a look next season to be the #7, but he's waiver-exempt and I think mostly spends the year with the Barracuda unless the Sharks move on from more than one defenseman or Pasichnuk breaks out.

Korenar looked scrambly and a bit overmatched (sometimes very overmatched), but overall he held his own. He's athletic and not especially large. I think he's got a good chance to be the Sharks' backup next year and possibly has the talent to be an unspectacular NHL backup.

Melnichuk had a lot of hype entering the season, but he only got two real chances with the Sharks (he replaced a shelled Martin Jones for ten minutes in a mid-season game when normal backup Devan Dubnyk was injured) and he did not look good in either - he was hopelessly overmatched and looked uncomfortable in net. I think he spends the season with the Barracuda (barring injury) and the Sharks will reevaluate.

 

[OrrNumber4]

On the optimistic side, I think someone like Leonard could be a top-6 winger simply because he has a few high-end attributes.

 

[Legionnaire11]

Chmelevski spent a lot of time on the taxi squad, playing 32 games between the Sharks and Barracuda. He struggled early (also true last season) but heated up later in the season with the Barracuda after he was moved to wing. He played three of the Sharks last four games and looked much more NHL-ready. His age-adjusted NHLe scoring rates project him to be a 30-40 point player in his prime - roughly a third line player. I expect him to get some serious looks next season that will determine whether he winds up as a third or fourth line player, but I don't expect him to be a full-time NHL player in 21-22.

Chekhovich had a very poor 19-20 season in the AHL and went home to Russia, where he had an excellent season in the KHL before returning to North America. His Barracuda performance wasn't particularly impressive, and he got a few games with the Sharks where he hung in there and showed some offensive flash, but otherwise didn't make waves. His age-adjusted NHLe scoring rates for the last two seasons project him to be a 25-30 point winger in his prime, but he likely doesn't have the skill set to be a fourth line player. He's a third-line winger if he succeeds (and if he really breaks out could be the third wheel on a top-six line), a career European player if he doesn't.

Leonard looked like a rookie, but he has good speed, decent defensive skills, and some offensive talent. He took a nasty hit late in the season and never returned, so hopefully he suffers no long-term ill effects from that. His age-adjusted NHLe scoring rates have never been particularly impressive - he projects to be a 25-30 point winger in his prime, so he's looking like a bottom-six winger. However, he has the defensive acumen to play in a fourth line role, and provides a little bit of scoring punch, so he can play on the third line.

Viel is a fourth line grinder/enforcer. He doesn't have much scoring punch and doesn't appear to play a really strong defensive game - his key skill is hitting other guys, either with his body or his fists. I'm sure he'll keep getting jobs with teams looking for someone to play that role for a few years, but he's never going to be anything more than that.

Händemark didn't really make an impression - he's a fourth line center who didn't look obviously out of place in the NHL, but also didn't do anything to justify keeping his spot either. He went back to Europe and is out of the Sharks' future plans. He has no real upside - he plays a quiet game focused on faceoffs and doesn't do a whole lot to make you remember he was in the game you just watched. I think he stays in Europe.

Meloche got in a few games and looks like he could be a bottom pair defenseman in the NHL - he didn't really make any serious errors, he's reasonably big and can play physically, and he has a decent shot but isn't an offense generator. I think he has a good chance to be the Sharks' #7 defenseman next season and I think has a career as a #6/7 tweener for a few years. He doesn't have the talent to do better than that, but that's better than a bust.

Pasichnuk played a few games with the Sharks, where he was kind of like a defensive equivalent to Händemark - he didn't really do anything to be noticed. On the plus side, that means he didn't really make too many mistakes, but the downside to that is that he didn't really create any offense (though he was never really given much of a chance to do that - no power play time, anchored to the black hole that is Vlasic, etc). He should get a look next season to be the #7, but he's waiver-exempt and I think mostly spends the year with the Barracuda unless the Sharks move on from more than one defenseman or Pasichnuk breaks out.

Korenar looked scrambly and a bit overmatched (sometimes very overmatched), but overall he held his own. He's athletic and not especially large. I think he's got a good chance to be the Sharks' backup next year and possibly has the talent to be an unspectacular NHL backup.

Melnichuk had a lot of hype entering the season, but he only got two real chances with the Sharks (he replaced a shelled Martin Jones for ten minutes in a mid-season game when normal backup Devan Dubnyk was injured) and he did not look good in either - he was hopelessly overmatched and looked uncomfortable in net. I think he spends the season with the Barracuda (barring injury) and the Sharks will reevaluate.

This is a great breakdown, thank you so much.

I also just realized that Barabanov is a Shark, can you touch on his game and future a little bit?

 

[Cas]

This is a great breakdown, thank you so much.

I also just realized that Barabanov is a Shark, can you touch on his game and future a little bit?

Barabanov is who he is, I think, given his age. He has some skill and puckhandling ability, and once he reached the Sharks he looked like a breath of fresh air, meshing extremely well with Hertl and Kane on our first line. I don't think he's quite that good, but he did help generate offense in combination with those two and I think he's a complementary top nine winger who can play on a top line with skilled linemates (and both Hertl and Kane are bona fide first line forwards).

He's not going to cost much, doesn't need to be protected from Seattle, no term on his contract, so the Sharks have every reason to give him a chance to succeed, and if he fails, it's no big deal.

I'm expecting a 40-point season out of him, and wouldn't be surprised to see 55 points or 15 points.

 

[LadyStanley]

Prospects

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

I continue to stand by my prediction that Vlad Kotkov will be a sleeper good player for us. Big winger who scores alot of goals.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I continue to stand by my prediction that Vlad Kotkov will be a sleeper good player for us. Big winger who scores alot of goals.

Not to be a downer, but 9 goals in 16 games in the Q as a 21 year old isn’t exactly a lot.

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

Not to be a downer, but 9 goals in 16 games in the Q as a 21 year old isn’t exactly a lot.

Oh I know. His overall point totals since joining the Q are encouraging. And hey, now that Reedy is kinda doing what he's doing, I don't put anything past anyone. I've just got this gut feeling Kotkovs gonna be a better pro.

 

[LadyStanley]

UND hockey coaching staff expected to remain intact for 2021-22 season | Grand Forks Herald

Weatherby staying in college for senior year

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

UND hockey coaching staff expected to remain intact for 2021-22 season | Grand Forks Herald

Weatherby staying in college for senior year

I wonder if he'll be like Reedy and step his game up in the Pros

 

[Patty Ice]

I wonder if he'll be like Reedy and step his game up in the Pros

Possible but unlikely. At one point prior to being drafted, Reedy was talked about as a potential 1st round pick whereas Weatherby was passed over in 2 drafts. With Reedy, his NHL potential has always visible and not so much with Weatherby. Could he be a late bloomer? Sure, but I wouldn't hold my breathe.

 

[Gecklund]

I wonder if he'll be like Reedy and step his game up in the Pros

Doubt it. I feel like his ceiling is John McCarthy or Bracken Kearns.

 

[LadyStanley]

Hopefully scrimmage will be streamed for those of us not local.

My guess is it will be held a week or so after draft.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Any info about Hatakka`s plans? Will he join Sharks or stay in Finland one more season?
He already played two seasons in Finnish top league (even on the first pair during second half of this season) so probably he will get the opportunity to move straight to NHL after camp like Ferraro? I see him on the roster sooner (this season) or later (in couple years), very reliable D this team needs.