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Another one of the geniuses down on every Sens pick not named Stutzle last year
Just for reference.
https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1310960889542201345
Another one of the geniuses down on every Sens pick not named Stutzle last year
Just for reference.
This guy is embarrassing himself with these rankings.
Clearly someone who scouts exclusively via numbers and graphs.
This guy is embarrassing himself with these rankings.
Clearly someone who scouts exclusively via numbers and graphs.
he is, but it’s nearly a year old, before the Lafreniere draft.
This guy is embarrassing himself with these rankings.
Clearly someone who scouts exclusively via numbers and graphs.
He should try watching just a little . Plug age, points, league, dy, cy, position into a model and some ranking pops out.This guy is embarrassing himself with these rankings.
Clearly someone who scouts exclusively via numbers and graphs.
the tweet was a week before the 2020 draft. Draft was held Oct 6-7.
It was his ranking of the 2020 draft, that’s what’s being ridiculedI know, that why I said that.
It was his ranking of the 2020 draft, that’s what’s being ridiculed
Then completely unsure what your post had to do with anything, it was posted with the intention of showing his year old rankingsI know, I got it the first time I read it, Lafreniere draft,.
He should try watching just a little . Plug age, points, league, dy, cy, position into a model and some ranking pops out.
Check out how he ranks our goaltending
and then there is this
I haven’t read his mentions, but this guy continuously embarrasses himself.
Kind of reminds me of some on here when that it'is s all they mention how many pts a certain player had in the past with a certain team disqualifying completely the team & linemates or potentially how many pts they could get at some future unknown time. While pts are important there is so much more to hockey than just the pts that lead to goals & assists, but you also have to prevent goals against. You need to have a balance & you need to have some physical dominance so your skill players can feel safe enough to play their game without getting killed. Having as many big skilled players as you can who can handle themselves is the key IMO & it seems to be the model that Ottawa is building.I think part of the challenge he runs into is his model is built only on points. There's no attempt at all to consider other aspects of the game. Bacon's model is a similar model to bader's but uses one of them catch all GAR stats which seems to work better. They're still models that have big blindspots for things that the scouting world sees. Bader's to me is useless. Bacon's is somewhat useful as a 'context' tool but never for actually ranking. It is useful to me to see that a player who profiles statistically in lower leagues usually has X % of making the NHL. It's not a tool for exactly judging a player though. Just a formal way of normalizing production across leagues. If only they actually treated it that way and spoke about it that way...
Kind of reminds me of some on here when that it'is s all they mention how many pts a certain player had in the past with a certain team disqualifying completely the team & linemates or potentially how many pts they could get at some future unknown time. While pts are important there is so much more to hockey than just the pts that lead to goals & assists, but you also have to prevent goals against. You need to have a balance & you need to have some physical dominance so your skill players can feel safe enough to play their game without getting killed. Having as many big skilled players as you can who can handle themselves is the key IMO & it seems to be the model that Ottawa is building.
Yeah it is a really difficult thing to measure defensive impact so you see a lot of the modelling crowd kinda ignore it. In terms of the sens - I like the way they are building overall but a few big mistakes over the years drafting had long impacts. Gotta hit on our 1st rounders. I don't subscribe to the you have to draft the highest skill available theory but Lazar, Thomson, Gagne, Bowers, England, Brown were all top 40 picks that in the last 8 years haven't worked out. So 6/16 top 40 picks have been misses. We have been lucky that we usually hit later in the draft. Brown was a good pick at the time - can't control that sometimes players don't work out. But In every case there were very good NHL prospects or very good NHLers picked directly after. Can't miss that often on top end picks. Great to build identity buy can't miss on those high end assets.
Bit worried with Boucher that we did the same thing this year. Hopefully he has a big year and shows a bit more touch around the net.
Why do so many throw Thomson out as a draft miss?
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SCF in 2007 and an overall finish of 8th in the league.
Never finished in the top 10 since. 14 years
highest finish 12th on 2 occasions. Lowest 31st once, 30th twice.
average finish 20th
number of years in the playoffs : 6 of 14
number of playoff series wins: 4
Can you please explain the good drafting again? I may have missed something. It seems that 1) this team has drafted fairly high, fairly regularly 2) near negligible success.
Buffalo is about the only team that is below us. Florida is close..otherwise, much of the league is better than the Sens.
Even the Blue team matches the Sens in terms of playoff appearances. No wins (Thank God). But their average finish is ~ 15th. The highest is around 10th, the lowest is around 22 for average finish. At 20th, the Sens are comfortably near the absolute bottom.
If this is good drafting, Holly Cow what will happen when we hit a bad patch!!!! Can you finish 33 in a 32 team league?
If this is good drafting, Holly Cow what will happen when we hit a bad patch!!!! Can you finish 33 in a 32 team league?
If he ends up being Cody Ceci that’s a good pick.He is giving our development staff a lot of work to turn him into a player imo. Poor hockey sense. High end prospects drafted right after. If he becomes a bottom pairing dman we should be happy. Problem is top four D and top six F likely right after.
Reminds me of Ceci. Lots of tools.