Salary Cap: Scheifele new contract

[Mortimer Snerd]

Sometimes contracts are about past performance. Especially UFA. They are not always about projection.

The projections are based on past performance but the contract is always about projection unless they are paying retroactively.

 

[truck]

Sometimes contracts are about past performance. Especially UFA. They are not always about projection.

These are not UFA deals.

They are long term deals for players with relatively short resumes - lots of projecting.

Even UFA deals include thoughts on future outputs.

 

[Guffman]

When the salary cap goes up, a 6.25 AAV will look like a bargain half way through. I expect the Jets secure him LT.

 

[MardyBum]

Scheif dominated this tournament defensively. Get him in at 8 years, doooo iiiit.

 

[Mud Turtle]

Mark Scheifele exemplifies all the good qualities that the Jets are looking for. He may not be the most talented player on the team (he's still very good) but his work ethic and attitude are incredible. He's the type of player that could play his entire career in one city and we need to lock him up long term. I want him to be the guy that our yoing prospects learn from. If they buy into his work ethic and leadership, we're a great team for years to come.

 

[Jets4Life]

8 years at $50 million sounds perfect.

I could live with 7 years at $42 million.

 

[jetman]

I think Chevy usually seems to wait until the playoffs are done to do anything in the offseason, so I think we still are going to wait a while on Scheifeles contract.

 

[10Ducky10]

8 x 7m ..... anything less than that is a bargain.

 

[Jets4Life]

8 x 7m ..... anything less than that is a bargain.

$7,000,000 = too much/overpayment

 

[sully1410]

$7,000,000 = too much/overpayment

By a long shot.

 

[10Ducky10]

You're buying 4 years of UFA....we won't get him for too much cheaper.

 

[Dayofthedogs]

7 mil for 8 years of 1Cs prime is pretty cheap.

I'm still banking on it being closer to 6.25 or 6.5 but I won't loose any sleep at 7 mil

 

[CorgisPer60]

He has only done that for the laat 2 months of the season. I'm not willing to go 56m over 8 seasons for Scheifele. Not this early.

 

[csk]

He has only done that for the laat 2 months of the season. I'm not willing to go 56m over 8 seasons for Scheifele. Not this early.

Me Neither, but he probably won't command that much. We may be very lucky on the timing of this contract if that pace is sustained.

 

[Lempo]

"Barkov did a 6 years for 35.4M, and he gets to wing Laine only on the internationals."

 

[jorbjorb]

6.5 million for 5 years.

 

[Aavco Cup]

6.5 million for 5 years.

Scheifele's agent: "start the car"

There is no way he get's that AAV for only 1 UFA year

 

[jorbjorb]

Scheifele's agent: "start the car"

There is no way he get's that AAV for only 1 UFA year

Yeah it is pretty high lol.

4.5 mil for 5 years.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/nazem-kadri

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

7 years at $ 41.3 mill for a 5.9 AAV.
Or
6 years at $ 33 mill for a cap hit of $ 5.5 mill.

For those bad at math that 7 th year is back loaded to entice Schiefele for that extra year at $ 8.3 mill.

 

[Aavco Cup]

It will likely be something very close to Barkov's deal

6 x $5.75M or
7 x $6M or
8 x $6.25M

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

He has only done that for the laat 2 months of the season. I'm not willing to go 56m over 8 seasons for Scheifele. Not this early.

If you aren't willing think how Chipman must feel about it. The money actually comes out of his pocket.

I think there is pretty wide agreement that Scheifele is the player we want to wrap up for as long as possible - 8 years. The AAV should be as low as possible, obviously. Some are throwing around big numbers. I think they are saying that they want to pay whatever it takes. They just want him locked up. Fair enough but we can't pay above the market for every good player who comes along.

The way I am looking at it is that the 4 RFA years are worth about 3 mil AAV. That number is the same if he signs for 6 years or 8. If we look at 8 and an AAV of 6 that means that we are paying 4x9 for the 4 UFA years. 9 mil/yr is right up there! If we increase the total contract to 6.5 the 4 RFA years are unchanged so the 4 UFA years are up to 10/yr, if we go to 7 they are at 11/yr! Those numbers are not going to seem like a bargain within the life of the contract. I think that 4x3 + 4x9 = 8x6 is as close to the right number as we can guess. Some small variation on that might come out through negotiation.

 

[jorbjorb]

We had a good time with Mark. It's time for a raise haha.

https://www.capfriendly.com/cost_per_point

In the top ten.

 

[Gm0ney]

We had a good time with Mark. It's time for a raise haha.

https://www.capfriendly.com/cost_per_point

In the top ten.

Melchiori cost per point: ∞

Stuart's pretty close to the bottom as well. $875,000. 738th out of 756

 

[Winnipeg Jets]

Long term with an AAV around 6m sounds about right to me.

 

[jorbjorb]

Melchiori cost per point: ∞

Stuart's pretty close to the bottom as well. $875,000. 738th out of 756

in defense of Melchiori he is still a + in the +/- category.