Proposal: Sam Reinhart to van

[Orvald]

The way I see it.

usually with a cap dump a high draft pick or prospect gets send along. Now you are trading for a Top 6 forward that can play center and put up 70 points and is defensively one of the best players on the sabres.

Louie erikson we don't want but you add Hoglander
Then you want Sam Reinhart, you give us your 1st + podkolzin.

 

[elitepete]

So what would your value be? Loui and a first for Reinhart? Like seriously. It's great that you are getting Reinhart but what are we getting? A top 10 pick in a week drafting? Cmon man give me a break

When did I say any of this?

I don’t know what Reinhart’s value is. But a top 10 pick is not the right value to get rid of 1 year of Eriksson.

Although I don’t know what Reinhart’s value is, the fact that he has requested a trade, and that he is 1 year from ufa likely lowers his value at least a little.

I don’t know if op’s offer is fair, but I definitely would not pay that as a Canucks fan. We have much bigger needs than Sam Reinhart.

 

[elitepete]

The way I see it.

usually with a cap dump a high draft pick or prospect gets send along. Now you are trading for a Top 6 forward that can play center and put up 70 points and is defensively one of the best players on the sabres.

Louie erikson we don't want but you add Hoglander
Then you want Sam Reinhart, you give us your 1st + podkolzin.

Reinhart is not a 70 point player.

Good luck getting that price that you just listed. Asinine.

 

[Hasekperreault23]

When did I say any of this?

I don’t know what Reinhart’s value is. But a top 10 pick is not the right value to get rid of 1 year of Eriksson.

Although I don’t know what Reinhart’s value is, the fact that he has requested a trade, and that he is 1 year from ufa likely lowers his value at least a little.

I don’t know if op’s offer is fair, but I definitely would not pay that as a Canucks fan. We have much bigger needs than Sam Reinhart.

I agree Vancouver and Sabres are not good trading partners.Both in the same boat.

 

[jd22]

I'd be a billionaire if I had a dollar for every time someone on HF boards said: "Player A will be a free agent next year we'll just sign them for free" only to watch that player get re-signed and come nowhere near free agency. As someone who's watched Reinhart year in and year out this would be a guy I'd want my team pursuing heavily if he were made available. Especially if I thought my team had a leg up on keeping him long-term.

Fair enough. Of course it is not assured, but regardless I believe Miller should be traded for assets more in line with the age of Vancouver's core - regardless of Reinhart. However, that absence of a top line player with Vancouver ties and cap space occurring in his UFA year could send a message.

But yes, overall I agree. However, there was Pietro that this was said all about as well.

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

Reinhart is not a 70 point player.

Good luck getting that price that you just listed. Asinine.

He was on pace for 60 points in a full season and 38 goals. 70 points isn't so far fetched.

 

[Gstank]

The only way i can see us getting Reinhart is if it comes with the shedding for Loui contact and then a trade of Jt miller for a top 4 dman. That being said I wouldnt give more then our 2021 first and a prospect for him. Im sure some other teams will be willing to offer more but he isnt what we need and is just going to create a log jam of big contacts in our top 6

 

[rotiman187]

Sabres fans wanting full price for Reinhart will be surprised.

 

[threeVo]

Sabres fans wanting full price for Reinhart will be surprised.

They hold all the cards and can trade him to any team they want.

 

[threeVo]

You have zero grasp of value

This offer is basically Sam Reinhart for a mid teens pick in a weak draft. Why the hell are the sabres making that move?

 

[Ciao]

I don't know why Buffalo would take that deal.

They aren't the bargain-basement store of the NHL. No reason they shouldn't get full value for a player over whom they have full control.

Buffalo has better chicken wings to boot.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

No interest unless the price is right.

Something like:

Miller
Juolevi
Beagle

for

Reinhart

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

It costs a 1st just to unload Eriksdon on any team just for future considerations or a 7th

1+Eriksdon doesn’t get Reinhart A lot needs to be added

It doesn’t cost a top 10 pick to dump 1 year of Eriksson.

The f*** you smoking?

 

[lawrence]

I agree Vancouver and Sabres are not good trading partners.Both in the same boat.

this.

I think a contending team with a 1st rounder in the later 20's and one of their higher end prospects is a price a strong team is more willing to make than lets say a team like the Vancouver Canucks. I could imagine a team or if we were as good as the Vancouver Canucks in 2012 or in 2013 willing to move their 1st and a blue chip for Reinhart to make that extra step but since we suck this bad, also a struggling team, I don't think they can really afford to trade for Sam. They can try to risk it, and see if we can tender him an offer as a UFA if we really want him.

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

This offer is basically Sam Reinhart for a mid teens pick in a weak draft. Why the hell are the sabres making that move?

Van’s pick will not be mid teens.

Easy top 10, likely top 7

 

[HockeyWooot]

Love Reinhart, wouldn’t overpay for him given he’ll be UFA. If there is a desire to come home then may as well wait.

If the Canucks really wanted to get him, my top offer would be:

Miller (I love JT Miller and his game. He’s been a stud last 2 seasons)
+Eriksson

 

[lawrence]

If there is a desire to come home then may as well wait.

if theres a desire for him to come back he can take a home town discount

however he is not someone I am really holding my breath for. If we get him, we'll have to see what he signs for, I don't want anymore over paid players on this team, it's held us back big time.

 

[Ace of Hades]

It is definitely 2 extremes - judging this team on its bubble success or its injury-ridden/covid season. So, probably somewhere in between.

The blueline is certainly a concern, but Petey, Boeser, Hughes, and Demko are a great core. I wouldn't say they are rebuilding rather this season was a setback.
Podz and a solid addition on the blueline and a 3C will go a long way. IMO, I would also change the coach, GM, and solidify their blueline.

Van will be stronger than the Ducks, Sharks, and the Flames.

Really hoped we received BC native Toews from the Isles instead. A top pairing of Toews-Schmidt wouldve looked solid while Hughes takes over the second pairing.

 

[lawrence]

Really hoped we received BC native Toews from the Isles instead

the price of 2 2nd rounders was too high for us, plus his point totals wouldn't be the same.

Like lets not be stupid here, we don't have Mackkinnon Rantenen and a start studded like up like the Avs do. His point total will very much be lower then Hughes if Toews was magically a Canuck

 

[elitepete]

This offer is basically Sam Reinhart for a mid teens pick in a weak draft. Why the hell are the sabres making that move?

This has nothing to do with what I said.

You think the Canucks pick (which is not a mid teens pick, the Canucks are 4th last right now) is what it would take to get rid of Eriksson. Therefore, you have zero grasp of trade value.

 

[threeVo]

Van’s pick will not be mid teens.

Easy top 10, likely top 7

LET ME SLOW DOWN FOR YOU.

LE CONTRACT = NEGATIVE VALUE
VAN 1st PICK 5-10

Add the two together and you have the value of roughly a mid teens pick.

WOW

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Schmidt for Samson and Buffalo's 1st round pick.

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

LET ME SLOW DOWN FOR YOU.

LE CONTRACT = NEGATIVE VALUE
VAN 1st PICK 5-10

Add the two together and you have the value of roughly a mid teens pick.

WOW

I’m sorry, but your arbitrary method of evaluating/devaluating a pick with a bad contract attached is not some widely known standard, neither is it easily gleaned by your brief post (as evidenced by others correcting you).

I encourage you to engage in a hockey discussion without being a condescending doosh, though.

“WOW”

 

[Ace of Hades]

the price of 2 2nd rounders was too high for us, plus his point totals wouldn't be the same.

Like lets not be stupid here, we don't have Mackkinnon Rantenen and a start studded like up like the Avs do. His point total will very much be lower then Hughes if Toews was magically a Canuck

Like lets not be stupid here, his defensive play will still be good enough to be a top 4 on this team. We dont care for his lower point totals, when Hughes will be doing most of the racking.

2 2nd rders for him is worth it. big upgrade on last year's team on the defensive end.

 

[threeVo]

I’m sorry, but your arbitrary method of evaluating/devaluating a pick with a bad contract attached is not some widely known standard, neither is it easily gleaned by your brief post (as evidenced by others correcting you).

I encourage you to engage in a hockey discussion without being a condescending doosh, though.

“WOW”

Its not arbitrary there are plenty of examples of teams moving picks to lose a bad contract. How is it my fault a bunch of dumb people dont understand that the VAN pick and a bad contract isnt that attractive of an offer