Salary Cap: Salary Cap & Roster Building - The Undisputed Era

[Pancakes]

Buy him out, isn't it 1M in cap space for 8 years?

Yeah it would be like 1 million per year for 8 years although one of those years would have a 2 million cap hit.

 

[dogthateats]

 

[Gurglesons]

The tough thing is if that's the price to get rid of Marleau there is no way we're getting rid of JJ without doing the same.

That's what I expected all along of course but some people thought we could get rid of him for less. Doesn't appear to be the case.

Not our fault people think JR can get out of any deal because he did it once.

 

[Gurglesons]

Glad we avoided it.

 

[66-30-33]

Or see if you can retain 750k and see if someone bites. Or find him a doctor that declares him allergic to sweat and then write him off as a LTIR for the remainder of the contract.

LTIR would be nice. Easy money for JJ. I'd retain 1M of JJ as well just to clear the cap space.

 

[dogthateats]

Glad we avoided it.

But he grew up within 100 miles of Pittsburgh

 

[Peat]

Rooting for a team desperate for good D, it's quite disheartening seeing guys like Trouba and Subban going for firesale prices and we can't get in on it. But yeah for Subban at full price we wouldn't be able to do it even if we technically had the space unlike NJ.

Hopefully, the sale of D's are not finished and a couple of them ends up here.

Trouba's price was low because he was prepared to be a maggot over where he'd sign long term, Subban was low because 9.5m is a lot of money for him if he plays like last season. I'm not so sad about missing out on them. I'd rather pay Schultz 5.5m than Subban 9.5m tbh.

 

[66-30-33]

Yeah it would be like 1 million per year for 8 years although one of those years would have a 2 million cap hit.

Our window would be closed by that time.

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/jack-johnson

 

[dogthateats]

 

[pensfan71]

Lets move it to the draft day GDT?

 

[Pete Gas]

Pens aren’t making the playoffs.

 

[pistolpete11]

I imagine Marleau's NTC made it very difficult for Toronto. Maybe Marleau was only willing to waive for SJ and SJ doesn't have the cap space Finding a team with enough cap space and owners with deep enough pockets to buy him out like Carolina probably wasn't very easy.

I understand how bad JMFJ is, but the Pens have no limitations on where they can trade him and he makes half of what Marleau does, so I still have some hope it could be done without giving up a 1st. Where I have less hope is that JR is actually trying to do it after trading Maatta.

 

[JRS91]

Remember when people thought Ray Shero was a bad GM?

He flipped Larson, Santini, Davies and two 2nd’s for Taylor Hall and P.K. Subban. Sure, he tethered himself to Bylsma for too long, but I never understood the hate for Ray Shero.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

Love that NJ just got the 1st overall and added Subban. Also NYR got an elite Euro talent... our division just became a crap shoot overnight.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Remember when people thought Ray Shero was a bad GM?

He flipped Larson, Santini, Davies and two 2nd’s for Taylor Hall and P.K. Subban. Sure, he tethered himself to Bylsma for too long, but I never understood the hate for Ray Shero.

Because people are sad that Shero made them feel sad.

Shero got a lot of flak, some of it deserved, but a lot of it completely undeserved. He's no Milbury.

 

[JRS91]

Because people are sad that Shero made them feel sad.

Shero got a lot of flak, some of it deserved, but a lot of it completely undeserved. He's no Milbury.

He made a few questionable moves.

His drafting was always criticized, especially in the 1st round. His second and third round picks thought haven't been that bad when you look at the catalog of guys that have been good or decent players in the NHL.

 

[Son Goku]

Love that NJ just got the 1st overall and added Subban. Also NYR got an elite Euro talent... our division just became a crap shoot overnight.

Kappo Kakko can't fix the mess that is The New York Rangers

 

[HandshakeLine]

He made a few questionable moves.

His drafting was always criticized, especially in the 1st round. His second and third round picks thought haven't been that bad when you look at the catalog of guys that have been good or decent players in the NHL.

He's not without his warts. But I think he stacks up as a fairly average, occasionally above average GM. He's just sort of the inverse of GMJR.

 

[Gurglesons]

He's not without his warts. But I think he stacks up as a fairly average, occasionally above average GM. He's just sort of the inverse of GMJR.

Not really. JR has done the same thing Shero did after two cup finals. Overpaid role players and has no draft picks that have panned out earlier than expected.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Not really. JR has done the same thing Shero did after two cup finals. Overpaid role players and has no draft picks that have panned out earlier than expected.

I guess I meant in terms of trading strategy. Shero held on to guys forever, even after it was obvious that they didn't fit. JR, at least outside of JJ, traded anyone he could.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Great trade by Shero IMO

 

[Gurglesons]

I guess I meant in terms of trading strategy. Shero held on to guys forever, even after it was obvious that they didn't fit. JR, at least outside of JJ, traded anyone he could.

I don’t really think either should be applauded tbh. JR got lucky in 2016 all his trades panned out.

 

[Trade]

I don’t really think either should be applauded tbh. JR got lucky in 2016 all his trades panned out.

Would it have been unlucky if those trades didn’t pan out?

 

[Gurglesons]

Would it have been unlucky if those trades didn’t pan out?

I mean, given his record of trades I don’t think he should be commended for a large percentage of them.

 

[chethejet]

GMJR is under win now. So was Shero. But GMJR won 2 cups as GM and quite frankly some of those extension were for the 2 to 3 year window of cup contention. I do think GMJR knows he needs to retool and a couple moves are still doable. Any team with Sid and good Geno and healthy Letang, Murray and Horny can be a tough out.