Player Discussion Ryan Dzingel

[Ray Kinsella]

God I hope he doesn't have it. Terrible awful disease

It’s his girlfriend.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

It’s his girlfriend.

Senators rookie Colin White thrilled about getting a chance to play at TD Garden
saw that ... fixed ... thanks

Still I hope she doesn't have it.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Nice year for Dzingel...but damn, more horrible news (potentially).

 

[pzeeman]

Man, the dark cloud that's been over this team since Murray's cancer diagnosis...

 

[WadeRedden]

Love Dzinger but...

I think if Karlsson decides not to re-sign Dzingel will become a big piece of the rebuild plan. He's perfect trade bait for any contending team that's tight against the cap. Even as a 1 year rental he's still great value at a $1.8M cap hit. His speed and newfound scoring touch make him a versatile player that can play in the top-6 or on the PK. Im not saying we'll get a huge haul for him but we should try to turn him into some draft capital while he's at peak value.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

Love Dzinger but...

I think if Karlsson decides not to re-sign Dzingel will become a big piece of the rebuild plan. He's perfect trade bait for any contending team that's tight against the cap. Even as a 1 year rental he's still great value at a $1.8M cap hit. His speed and newfound scoring touch make him a versatile player that can play in the top-6 or on the PK. Im not saying we'll get a huge haul for him but we should try to turn him into some draft capital while he's at peak value.

I'd rather just sign him to a bridge extension now and put him with Duchene or Stone for a year. His skills are obvious I don't see him falling off a cliff.

 

[BondraTime]

I'd rather just sign him to a bridge extension now and put him with Duchene or Stone for a year. His skills are obvious I don't see him falling off a cliff.

He's a UFA, no possibility of a bridge extension.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

He's a UFA, no possibility of a bridge extension.

Right, I meant like a 2-3 year prove it extension.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Right, I meant like a 2-3 year prove it extension.

That's what his current deal is.

If he can keep up what he did this year we should be able to net about a first rounder for him from a contender which will be nice cause we won't have our own first.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

That's what his current deal is.

If he can keep up what he did this year we should be able to net about a first rounder for him from a contender which will be nice cause we won't have our own first.

I don't see the point in developing late picks for 8 years only to flip them for a pick and hope they become a similar player. I'd rather just keep Dzingel, he shouldn't be too expensive and meshes well with our current forwards.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I don't see the point in developing late picks for 8 years only to flip them for a pick and hope they become a similar player. I'd rather just keep Dzingel, he shouldn't be too expensive and meshes well with our current forwards.

Oh, well thinking he's not going to be expensive is where you're going amiss here. He'll easily get 4+ probably 5 if he has another year like this one as an UFA. We just aren't going to have the money to sign him without massive cuts elsewhere. That's the whole nature of our position as such a cash poor team under Melnyk.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

Oh, well thinking he's not going to be expensive is where you're going amiss here. He'll easily get 4+ probably 5 if he has another year like this one as an UFA. We just aren't going to have the money to sign him without massive cuts elsewhere. That's the whole nature of our position as such a cash poor team under Melnyk.

Ya I understand where you're coming from. I see him at about 4 mill per but ya, if it's much more than that then I agree it isn't worth the risk of him not repeating.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Ya I understand where you're coming from. I see him at about 4 mill per but ya, if it's much more than that then I agree it isn't worth the risk of him not repeating.

4m is like minimum though on a 5 or 6 year deal. If he hits the open market he can get way more on a 3 or 4 year deal.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Right, I meant like a 2-3 year prove it extension.

He'll argue he already proved it , which he pretty much did

 

[jbeck5]

His hands didn’t start magically working. He just couldn’t finish last season and has a weak shot.

He definitely did start playing with more confidence and patience with the puck. He's not scared to hold on to the puck and make plays. Those are good signs if you're hoping for a top 6 winger.

He looks like what we were hoping from regin after the pittsburgh playoff series a few years ago.

 

[armani]

Thread bump. I totally dig Dangle Dzingel, last year was great but I believe he will be as good if not better this time around. Each season this guy has improved his game.

Hope the Sens can sign the Big3 and lock up Dzingel too before he becomes too expensive.

 

[armani]

Underestimated Dzingel, Duchene tasked with leading Sens in transition

Melnyk's re-build, or liquidation of assets as we know it, might also see this guy biting the dust. Zinger's been improving every year and as I have been tooting since last, I expect a career year from him this season.

 

[Zedrow]

I've been a huge fan of Dzingel's, even back when he was compared to Kelly (stone hands) because he couldn't finish but was always able to get the puck. Now that we have a better Kelly we should keep him. How many PKs did we have with Kelly getting possession only to shoot at the goalie's pads? Now we have a finisher too.

 

[dumbdick]

Man, we gotta resign this guy.

 

[DrEasy]

I think his shot is much better this year.

 

[dumbdick]

Any thoughts on what his number is going to be? I understand if they don't want to shell out too much for him. But he's going to cash in if he keeps up this pace. Should have signed him in the offseason.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[foggyvisor]

He's going to get paid.

(by someone else)

 

[danielpalfredsson]

4x4 is probably the minimum if he has another 20 goal season. If he puts up 55-60 points or 30 goals, that amount increases. He's a very difficult contract to predict because there aren't a lot of late bloomers whose numbers have progressively climbed like his have over 3 seasons in their mid 20s. Guys like Hoffman and Marchessault had prime offensive seasons out of the gate and just had to prove it a second time to get paid. Dzingel had 3rd line numbers as a rookie+sophomore, low end 2nd line numbers in year 3 (with a high shooting percentage), and now is producing like a 1st liner (small sample size) with an even greater shooting percentage along with an absurdly high amount of shots taken compared to his career average.

Watching him, I don't think he's a guy who a budget team should pay top 6 money to. He is a complimentary guy whose going to have a long career as a 15-20 goal scorer who pops a few big seasons. His skating helps him create, but he doesn't have high enough skill or vision at full speed to sustain these first line type numbers. We should hope he finishes with these inflated numbers so that we can get the best possible return for him at the deadline.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Trade him at the deadline for a good asset (1st or 2nd+prospect) and allocate the 3.5-4.5M he'd get towards the D.