Truly hate it for her, and no way do I think the crime warrants the punishment given, but she did knowingly break a rule in RUSSIA. I mean, there has to be some level of self knowing to realize that of all the places to NOT break the law, Russia is up there with North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Texas/Oklahoma...
Griner Is Being Sent to a Russian Penal Colony. What Is That?
Some prisoners are tortured, or beaten by fellow inmates. Some have to work 16-hour days. A few are forced to watch Russian propaganda on repeat. This is the world of the Russian penal colony, into which Brittney Griner is about to be inducted for a nine-year term. Penal colonies are the...news.yahoo.com
Griner's appeal failed. Now being sent to penal colony.
Russia may use WNBA star Griner as high profile "hostage" UPD prisoner swap
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Let's accentuate the positive.
At least for the foreseeable future Griner won't be subjected to the anthem of the oppressive nation whose government she relies upon to secure her release.
At least for the foreseeable future Griner won't be subjected to the anthem of the oppressive nation whose government she relies upon to secure her release.
Voight
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Two states that statistically put to death more inmates than any other state, but it was also meant partially in jest.Uh...... ok......
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IceColdOx
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Honestly depressing how many Americans are cool with Griner being stuck in a penal colony.
Mike C
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She claims she had to play basketball there because the WNBA didn't pay her enough. She was making over 200K per year. Me and my wife make less than 80k per year and we live just fine. She could have supplemented her paltry 6 figure income in a different country, one that even let's you smuggle contraband in.
She said she needed the cannabis for medicinal purposes then said she packed it by accident.
Put me in the camp of
Dear Brittany, or can I call you BG,
"WHO CARES" !!!
Most Russian prisons are penal colonies. Her transfer appears to be par-for-the-course.
What, should she receive preferential treatment because she's a quasi-celebrity women's BB player?
If you don't want to be incarcerated in a foreign country, don't break their laws. And quit crying about it when you do.
It's as simple as that.
Mike C
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She's a spoiled pompous entitled snob. That's not even the problem that got her in trouble.
Pure GREED. She makes 221,515 in WNBA plus incentives. Has endorsement money of probably a mil. Yet to make another mil to a mil and a half, she was ok with Putin's Russia, just not OK with Putin's rules??
As my grandmother used to say "good for ya, that'll teach you for next time"!
Voight
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She broke the law. As others have said, most Russian prisons are penal colonies so they aren't going above & beyond to make her prison time worse than it already is.
Dumb move to try and smuggle contraband in any country, let alone one with strict drug laws like Russia. Her excuses are very poor and not any good.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Yea, stands up for "human rights" yet gladly takes money from Putins cronies who are complicit in his actions over the last 22 years.
Well whadya know.... I didn't care back in March and I still don't care now.
Nut Upstrom
You dirty dog!
I'm sure you'd be singing the opposite tune if it was a straight, white, conservative, male, millionaire hockey player who wore your favorite team's jersey. Your agenda (and that of most people doing the finger wagging here) is the kind of nonsense that make this country such a toilet politically. Can you people ever just look at a person as a person and not as a (D) or an (R)? Or do you, mindlessly, require that before you can decide what opinion you must have?
She made two stupid mistakes. Going to Russia and bringing an illegal substance. The punishment she is receiving is the true crime here, but being who she is, half of America are either shrugging their shoulders or applauding.
Sadly, she must lay in the bed she made, you do not set free a dangerous enemy to your country to right this wrong, but y'all don't have to be so happy about it. She's an American being detained too harshly by a hostile foreign power. As an American, that's all I need to know to feel anger and sympathy at her situation even while knowing there is little to be done about it now.
Mike C
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You don't know anything about me to make such judgements.
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tarheelhockey
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I take no pleasure in it, but I'm struggling to see why it should be something to worry about. To me, she's not a big enough celebrity for her treatment to be viewed differently than if she were any other citizen. She blatantly broke the law, in a country known for its draconian criminal code, during a time of war. She says it was a mistake, but you don't "mistakenly" pack drugs in your luggage.
It is what it is. I fully expect that if I show up in North Korea with a baggie of cocaine in my pocket, I will spend a great deal of my remaining lifespan staring at cinder block walls. Thus I choose not to put myself in that situation.
TheBeastCoast
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I do feel bad for her in the sense that the penalty does far out weigh the crime she committed much in the same way I felt bad for all the people in the states that had their lives ruined for simple possession. That said bringing an illegal substance over international borders has to be the dumbest thing ever and while I do have compassion for her, they absolutely should not be trading her for war criminals. Tough lesson to have to learn I suppose.
LadyStanley
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$215k is nothing to sneeze at, but that's not take home pay. By the time taxes (federal, multiple states, even some local taxes), union dues, agent fees, etc., it may be just about $100k. And you need to set aside maybe 30% for retirement as her career won't go on forever. She is supporting a spouse.
(And who knows what legal bills over this maybe.)
(And who knows what legal bills over this maybe.)
Mike C
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i call Bullshit! 100k most certainly is take home pay. here's a thought, her spouse can how do i say this, oh yeah, GET A FUC**NG JOB
she also has years of endorsement money and years of foreign income. she also could have played for 6 figures in more acceptable countries like a lot of others. instead she was greedy
for all we know, she smuggled drugs into there other times, and this time they put the hammer down.
like they said in the old naighborhood "she can rot in jail"
LadyStanley
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U.S. State Department shuts down Russian claims of progress on Brittney Griner talks - Yahoo Sports
Russia’s deputy foreign minister said that progress was being made on a prisoner swap for Brittney Griner. The U.S. said Russia has “consistently failed to negotiate in good faith.”
US refutes claims that prisoner swap talks are progressing well.
I think we're at the political pawn stage.
Mike C
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There are close to 20 Americans detained abroad in places like Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, etc
U.S. State Department shuts down Russian claims of progress on Brittney Griner talks - Yahoo Sports
Russia’s deputy foreign minister said that progress was being made on a prisoner swap for Brittney Griner. The U.S. said Russia has “consistently failed to negotiate in good faith.”
US refutes claims that prisoner swap talks are progressing well.
I think we're at the political pawn stage.
Some of them didn't break any laws. Griner committed a crime and is being punished according to Russian dictates.
Voight
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This is exactly my point. Her excuse is crap and bringing cannabis products into Russia was a stupid move in the first place. Yea, nine years is an excessive sentence, but think about the regular Russian citizens who have to live everyday with these kinds of laws.
U.S. State Department shuts down Russian claims of progress on Brittney Griner talks - Yahoo Sports
Russia’s deputy foreign minister said that progress was being made on a prisoner swap for Brittney Griner. The U.S. said Russia has “consistently failed to negotiate in good faith.”
US refutes claims that prisoner swap talks are progressing well.
I think we're at the political pawn stage.
Trading Bout for her is a dumb move.
She's being detained in the same manner any regular Russian is. They aren't torturing her or beating her everyday because she's American or of a different skin colour. Had she been born in Moscow and lived her entire life across the pond, she would have received a similar sentence.
Hard to feel sorry for someone who blatantly broke the law. & if this was me or you in this situation, there would be 0 outcry (except from family/friends), the media wouldn't give a crap, and I could be wrong but I don;lt think POTUS would be so eager to meet with our families.
Jets4Life
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It's very sad how heartless some people on this forum can be. She had less than a gram of hash oil on her. Under normal circumstances, she would ahve been fined, and sent back to the US. However, considering how far the US-Russia diplomatic relationship has fallen in 2022, it's obvious that the Russians are using her as a political prisoner. They should really bring her home, and exchange her for a Russian spy captured in the US.
I have a feeling that her personal politics made her vulnerable to this type of arrest. One wonders if she would have faced the same type of consequences, if she was a GOP supporter.
I have a feeling that her personal politics made her vulnerable to this type of arrest. One wonders if she would have faced the same type of consequences, if she was a GOP supporter.
Jets4Life
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"
In 2004 the drug policy of Russia was liberalised.[12] For various drugs, the amount that individuals could possess without facing criminal charges was revised upwards.[1] In particular, the possession limit for cannabis was set at 20 grams, so that less than this amount would be only an administrative offence with no threat of jail time.[13] Previously, possessing even a single cannabis joint qualified as a criminal offence.[13]
In 2006 Russian policy reversed again to lower the possession limits for various drugs, with the criminal limit for cannabis going from 20 g to 6 g.[1] Less than 6 grams qualified as an administrative offense punishable by a 5000 ruble fine or 15 days detention.[1]
Possession of up to 6 g is considered an administrative crime, whereas more than 7 g is considered a serious criminal offence, as regulated by Russian criminal code article 228. However, the legalization of cannabis remains an aspiration among some Russians.
The following penalties apply to conviction for large-scale possession.
- Fine of 40,000 roubles.
- 480 hours of compulsory labor or 2 years of corrective labor.
- Up to three years in prison or restricted freedom.
Under Russian law, Grier faced a maximum penalty of 15 days in jail, and 5,000 Rubles.
Mike C
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Griner was charged with smuggling cannabis oil. Not cannabis. Both have different possession limits.
Russian law states that possession of 0.4 grams of cannabis oil is considered a "large amount". She was carrying almost double that.
Also smuggling narcotics in “significant amount” is in violation of Russian Article 229¹(2)(c). It carries a minimum sentence of five to 10 years.
Griner has nobody but herself to blame.
Half a gram – a thousand lives - Harm Reduction Journal
Brittney Griner's sentence is in line with Russia's strict drug penalties – but how long she serves will be decided outside the courtroom
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