NFL: Russell Wilson benched - his Broncos tenure appears to be over

[Breakers]

If Wilson gets cut how much will he have made off the Broncos for 2 seasons of football?

it’s got to be over a $100 million

But it gets reduced depending on his new contract
The wording states
Whatever contract he agrees to on his new team reduces the amount owed to him from the broncos

So if he takes the vet min once he is released, that is a shot at Denver. He takes $15 million is means less money denver has to pay.

This is of course unless he gets traded

But Khalil Mack and Max Crosby still have bonuses to hit, so they are motivated and if one of them for instance injured wilson that he is still on an injury report in March he makes an extra $40 million, hence the benching.

 

[GKJ]

If Wilson gets cut how much will he have made off the Broncos for 2 seasons of football?

Like $150m or thereabouts

 

[Avs_19]

Nah, Hershell is still the standard.

If you buy the line of thinking that Elway would have kept the Colts in Baltimore (I don't) that one has to be even more disasterous.

DeShaun Watson ain't looking so hot either.

It may not even end up being the worst Broncos trade in recent memory depending on how things go. They just gave up a 1st and 2nd for Payton and a 3rd and then paid the egomaniac $90M-$100M.

 

[Hasbro]

It may not even end up being the worst Broncos trade in recent memory depending on how things go. They just gave up a 1st and 2nd for Payton and a 3rd and then paid the egomaniac $90M-$100M.

No cap implications though. The Waltons just have to lift up a sofa cushion on that one.

It may not even end up being the worst Broncos trade in recent memory depending on how things go. They just gave up a 1st and 2nd for Payton and a 3rd and then paid the egomaniac $90M-$100M.

Groper Cleveland ain’t looking great either.

 

[Avs_19]

No cap implications though. The Waltons just have to lift up a sofa cushion on that one.


Groper Cleveland ain’t looking great either.

Most definitely. His cap hit in each of the next three seasons is $64M/yr and the entire contract is fully guaranteed. Their options for cap savings are a trade (good luck!), restructure, or extension so they're pretty screwed. He's not even the best QB on his own team.

 

[StreetHawk]

If Wilson gets cut how much will he have made off the Broncos for 2 seasons of football?

Spotrac is the best source for NFL contracts.

Russell Wilson

Russell Wilson contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

www.spotrac.com

See the Yearly Cash column

2022 - $2 mill base salary, $50 mill signing bonus, $5 mill roster bonus - $57 million total cash
2023 - $8 mill base salary, $20 mill option bonus - $28 mill total cash
2024 - $17 mill base salary and $22 mill option bonus - $39 mill total cash.

$124 million is the final cash payment Denver owes Russell, less the offset of what Russ were to sign for in 2024.

$37 mill for 2025 would be guaranteed in March 2024.

If Russ could have done ok for 4 years, it would have cost them $161 mill for 4 seasons, thus $40.25 mill per season over 4 years. But, he needed to be a good 4 year starter to get to that. If he was, then that was a fair amount to have paid him.

Russ' cap charge for 2024 was to be $10 mill for SB, $17 mil for Base, $4 mill for 2023 option bonus and $4.4 mill for 2024 option bonus. Total of $35.4 million.

2025 would have been the tough one with the $37 mill base, then add the other $18.4 mill of prorated bonuses, thus a $55.4 mill cap charge, which would have meant, Russ would have converted some of that $37 mill base salary into a bonus to spread it out.

2026 would then have left $10 mil SB, $8 mill 2023 option bonus and $13.2 mill for 2024 option bonus. $31.2 mill in dead money to eat, likely over 2 seasons in 26 and 27. That was likely the goal at signing of the contract by Denver.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Seahawks shows the wisdom of keeping things silent and in-house.....

Because outsiders only go off incomplete information...and the media played along hyping Russ up so he could get paid.

But now, the dirt is out on him.

However, the Broncos trying to get him to give up guaranteed money sounds like such a Walmart thing to do....LOL

 

[Blitzkrug]

Seahawks shows the wisdom of keeping things silent and in-house.....

Because outsiders only go off incomplete information...and the media played along hyping Russ up so he could get paid.

But now, the dirt is out on him.

However, the Broncos trying to get him to give up guaranteed money sounds like such a Walmart thing to do....LOL

Uhhhh what.

Russ got paid because Russ was a bonafide top 5 QB before he got traded to Denver. Not some weird media conspiracy or whatever nonsense you imagined.

I personally can't stand the guy but like come on...stats don't really lie.

 

[Say Hey Kid]

Russell Wilson says Broncos gave him ultimatum after beating Super Bowl champs: change contract or get benched

Wilson was eventually benched for Jarrett Stidham leading into Week 17

www.cbssports.com

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Uhhhh what.

Russ got paid because Russ was a bonafide top 5 QB before he got traded to Denver. Not some weird media conspiracy or whatever nonsense you imagined.

I personally can't stand the guy but like come on...stats don't really lie.

If coaches saw film, they should have seen that he can't utilize the middle of the field at all. His heat maps are the literal opposite of Garappolo. He's like a mini-me of Big Ben.

The Seahawks let him pad the stats and humored his desire to run a pass heavy O before eventually overruling him.

Time management was also an issue in Seattle but again, incomplete information and wishful thinking led to ignorance of evidence.

The media does not snitch or humiliate players unless the league gives them a green light that there is no penalty for neg press. That's why Derek Carr can look unimpressive every game but they emphasize all the positives.

 

[Troy McClure]

Mr Unlimited.
Let Russ Cook.
Let Russ be Russ.
DangeRuss Wilson.
Broncos Country, let's ride.

I mean, all of these look good when you are winning and are the sole reason the team is winning. Where did it go wrong, when did Wilson grow such an ego that he had to be 'the shit'.

It went wrong when he got too old. It's not his fault. It happens to every athlete.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

That people are now trying to pretend like the guy wasn't a fantastic QB before going to Denver and that 99.9 percent of the world wasn't expecting him to light it up in Denver is hilarious.

 

[StreetHawk]

It went wrong when he got too old. It's not his fault. It happens to every athlete.

He got old and lost most of his elusiveness. But, over his decade with Seattle, he never got better at reading defences. When you main attribute is your legs and you don't develop your pocket skills, your play will erode once the legs go.

 

[Halladay]

I think i saw maybe two Russell Wilson jersey's/shirts when I was at Lumen Field. There was more people wearing Wentz ones. Best for the Broncos to take the hit and get it over with.

 

[StreetHawk]

I think i saw maybe two Russell Wilson jersey's/shirts when I was at Lumen Field. There was more people wearing Wentz ones. Best for the Broncos to take the hit and get it over with.

No benefit to waiting another year since the $37 mill for 2025 vests in March 2024. I mean cutting him after the 2024 season would still leave:
$37 mill base salary for 2025
$20 mill SB unallocated
$12 mill unallocated 2023 option bonus
$17.6 mill unallocated 2024 option bonus
Total $86.6 mill

Currently spotrac shows 2025 as just $49.6 mill because the $37 mill base salary has not vested but once it does it would have hit to take it to $86.6 mill.

 

[EpochLink]

It went wrong when he got too old. It's not his fault. It happens to every athlete.

Not everyone can be like Brady or Manning, or heck even George Blanda

 

[TheAngryHank]

Leave him on the roster as a tackling dummy..Make him earn that bread.

 

[StreetHawk]

Leave him on the roster as a tackling dummy..Make him earn that bread.

Denver has no QB3. Russ will be dressed vs chargers.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

No benefit to waiting another year since the $37 mill for 2025 vests in March 2024. I mean cutting him after the 2024 season would still leave:
$37 mill base salary for 2025
$20 mill SB unallocated
$12 mill unallocated 2023 option bonus
$17.6 mill unallocated 2024 option bonus
Total $86.6 mill

Currently spotrac shows 2025 as just $49.6 mill because the $37 mill base salary has not vested but once it does it would have hit to take it to $86.6 mill.

IMO, OvertheCap does a better job with NFL contracts because I can look at how Cut/Trades per the June 1st designation will affect the cap.

Russ will very obviously be designated as a post June 1st cut in March. Thus his cap hits will be as such:

2024: 35.4
2025: 18.4
2026: 18.4
2027: 8.4
2028: 4.4

 

[StreetHawk]

IMO, OvertheCap does a better job with NFL contracts because I can look at how Cut/Trades per the June 1st designation will affect the cap.

Russ will very obviously be designated as a post June 1st cut in March. Thus his cap hits will be as such:

2024: 35.4
2025: 18.4
2026: 18.4
2027: 8.4
2028: 4.4

When a player gets cut all of the future cap hits, post June 1 designation get charged over 2 years. Thus 2025, is the sum of 2025 to 2028 as you listed, which makes 2025 a dead charge of $49.6 mill.

Over the cap works fine. One thing you just need to do is just show the player as a pre June 1 cut. That is then the total value of remaining cap hit for that player that the team has to take. Then change to a post June 1 cut and take that dead charge for the year and subtract it from the pre June 1 cut to see what will hit the following season.

 

[hatterson]

IMO, OvertheCap does a better job with NFL contracts because I can look at how Cut/Trades per the June 1st designation will affect the cap.

Russ will very obviously be designated as a post June 1st cut in March. Thus his cap hits will be as such:

2024: 35.4
2025: 18.4
2026: 18.4
2027: 8.4
2028: 4.4

 

[Breakers]

Uhhhh what.

Russ got paid because Russ was a bonafide top 5 QB before he got traded to Denver. Not some weird media conspiracy or whatever nonsense you imagined.

I personally can't stand the guy but like come on...stats don't really lie.

Bahahahaha
Top 5 QB

NFL Top 100 Players of 2022 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Peat]

 

[Troy McClure]

Now this is one the PA can win. Good. Hammer the Broncos.

 

[StreetHawk]

Now this is one the PA can win. Good. Hammer the Broncos.

I've heard teams go to players (but in the off-season), looking for them to take a pay cut from non-guaranteed money otherwise, they will be cut.
Never heard a team threatened to bench a player for not adjusting the contract. From the sounds of things, they wanted to push the 2025 guarantee back, but have not heard when that would have been. After the completion of 2024 season or still before the season?

Team can play whomever they want. Seen RG3 not play while in year 4 of his contract.