Makar hasn't done squat since being drafted. Why would the avs dump a proven D and open up a spot for a rookie? Here we are talking about not rushing prospects and you think the avs would rush in an unproven prospect? And if Makar does nothing next season, he would be near bust territory like JP. Perhaps JP for Makar straight up.
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BarDownBobo
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I've seen the anti Holland sentiment quite a bit and I don't quite understand it. Guy was at the helm of the model NHL franchise of the 2000s, a team that was built on speed and skill. Now that their star players have aged out and retired and they haven't bottomed out long enough to replace them he's a bad exec? What am I missing with him.....
hallhopkinseberle
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His moves since his stars aged out haven’t been great. Also, his love for Kyle Quincey is always going to be a strike.
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Makar's a beast. And they already have Erik Johnson on the right side, and they need forward depth.
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I doubt Kovalchuk waives to come here. I could see him going back to Russia just to give a FU to LA after how he's been treated there this year.
I wouldn't mind Barrie, but that's a very risky player for us to go after. I also hope the Avs are smart enough not to move a guy because they have someone leaving college. Despite his flaws he runs their PP for them and is by far their best offensive weapon on the point.
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He inherited a Stanley Cup winning club that had a lot of depth.
He's stars were aging for years and he hadn't found a way to replace those superstar picks that he made 20 years ago.
The team was on the downswing for quite some time and he had no answers.
As a POHO I'd take him, as a GM I don't know if he knows how to build anymore. And that's exactly what we need, a guy that can build around our stars.
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What kind of forward depth are they going to get for a guy with one year left on his deal?
That model was built on dumb luck and the ability to spend more money than anyone else in a pre-cap league.
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This pretty much nails it. It’s all fun when your scouts unearth Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Zetterberg in the late rounds but there has been a long and unbroken slide into mediocrity with poor drafting, poor cap management/signings going back a decade now. Holland may be ok as POHO. Hard to say without seeing how he is in terms of capabilities. He does seem to conduct himself with some class, so thats a plus. I dont see anything in his record that tells me he can build up a winner in this era so I cant support his as GM.
CantHaveTkachev
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he led his team in scoring...as a 19 year old defenseman...yeah "squat"
and the reason they trade Barrie is because they have an internal cap and won't be able to afford Barrie's raise...especially after re-signing Rantannen to a monster contract
Jimmi McJenkins
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The Nik Lidstrom miracle. So many give Holland too much credit for just being adjacent to that happening.
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Makar stayed back another year to develop. So what are you talking about rushing?
He is arguably the best d prospect out there ATM
Then you say if he doesn't play well I his first year pro its comparable to JP...who hasn't in 3 lol
No...just no
Jimmi McJenkins
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Also, I want to re-double my desire to see the Oilers sign Brett Connolly as a UFA, he's a player who's a good age, who's game is coming around and appears to be a person of good character.
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27 years old ,6'3, 20 + 20 scorer. I'd like to see a 5x4 or maybe 5x4.25.
Connolly has been a bottom 6 player his whole career.
Players like that don't make 4M a year
Benny Pouliot did (Maybe not the best example but the issue for him was term not caphit)
lol I literally wrote term was the issue
... meaning we dont sign Connoly long termCome on bruh
Jimmi McJenkins
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Connolly is a player you need to find before he has this type of career year. Not the guy you give a multi year deal to based on a single good season offensively.
Stay away from that kind of contract imo. Way too big a risk of him reverting to the 25 point player he’s been the rest of his career.
Stay away from that kind of contract imo. Way too big a risk of him reverting to the 25 point player he’s been the rest of his career.
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