Well, it depends on your definition of "decent" but I'd be shocked if he didn't return at the very minimum, a 2nd. I don't buy that the Islanders will deal him anyway, they are in the thick of a playoff race.
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Well, it depends on your definition of "decent" but I'd be shocked if he didn't return at the very minimum, a 2nd. I don't buy that the Islanders will deal him anyway, they are in the thick of a playoff race.
Your assessment of MDC is accurate. You probably could have traded a mid round pick for him last summer. This is it for him.
But they're both very close to being waiver fodder. Puljujarvi most definitely has two more years of development, but he's a guy you need to commit scoring line minutes to at the NHL at the expense of someone who may be better suited for the role. How long do you think the Oilers make that commitment for?
I find myself defending JP in game threads because my expectations of him are very low, while others still have much higher expectations. I think this guy is trending towards being a 6'4 version of Zach Hyman if he puts things together--and he's still not really putting them together.
In all honesty, I certainly hope so. But prospects that fail to improve almost always return similarly struggling prospects.
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if there was a "sweet pea" added at the end, it would be perfect.Puljujarvi isn't close to waiver fodder. When has a team ever waived a 20 year old highly drafted prospect?
How do we know what role he's suited for? He's been bounced around the lineup and back and forth between the NHL and AHL for two and a half seasons so I don't know how anyone can say with any certainty what his role will be going forward.
I'm not dealing him now because I don't see the point in dealing him for a reclamation project. I'd rather see it through with him then deal him for a 3rd rounder like Yak in a couple of years if he still can't gain any traction. I don't see the purpose of dealing him for Dal Colle, a player who is even closer to being a bust.
I'm aware that Eberle at 50% retention and Benning were added in, but the meat of that deal would be Dal Colle for Pulju. I can't get on board with that.
Exactly. This is basically what I’ve been saying from the start.
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Spooner and Bear for Eberle
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I'd trade Spooner straight up for Eberle, wouldn't give up anything of value for him though.
Benning for Maroon is something I've wondered about, but I don't know if STL has room for Benning. I'd give a late pick for Maroon though
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That's absolutely fine. I agree you don't waive him, but I don't think there's a heck of a lot we can do with him next season if he comes to camp the same player. Personally, I'm leaning towards sending him home for a year. If we don't, it's either trade him for minimal value at that point or watch him struggle until he either figures it out or we decide to pull the plug.
Scottish maybe. Sean Connery.Smarmy British accent is what you were aiming for?
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Steve Staios is actually a decent comparable. At the same age Staios had played 152 games with 6 goals and 24 points but was struggling to get into every game. They are both right shots and similar size. Staios ended up playing 1001 NHL games with 220 points delivering average to decent 4-6 defense level hockey. I'm pretty sure many teams in the NHL would consider taking a flyer on a player with Steve Staios level up side. The only part that may devalue him a bit is that he is probably about half a million dollars overpaid.
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so the latest demand from some fans for Lucic's contract is 2 first and Pool party--
we are better just to buy the guy out
we are better just to buy the guy out
Or leaving him on the roster and letting him do whatever he can do. If he plays like he did against LA anymore, plant his ass in the pressbox. Why would another team want him right now?
Jumptheshark
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bench him and buy him out
but the assets being asked by fans from us to move him is too much
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It's pretty sad that we're basically at the point where absorbing a $19M cap hit over the next four years for him not play could be preferable than just playing him on the 4th or finding a way to dump him onto another team.
The reality is that getting rid of him even at 50% retained is the best option fiscally, but even then who would take him and I'm not sure how retained salary works on his goofy contract structure. But realistically would anyone even want him at $2.0-3.0M over the next four years. I doubt it.
Furthermore, due to ill advised buyout timing on Pouliot and Gryba's contract, they can only buyout one contract this summer and Spooner's contract may be the better option in terms of overall cap savings.
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He's buyout proof. There'd be pretty much no benefit. But yes, people aren't going to be lining up to take on that contract. I'm not sure why people feel the need to constantly discuss it.
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No, just minimal cap savings. If you feel a league min player could be more effective in the line-up than Looch then it makes sense to buy him out.
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The best cap savings years for him are 2019-20 and 2021-22. But don't even save the minimum contract amount in 2020-21 or 2022-23, but overall there would be $5M in savings over 4 years, so yeah pretty much it's worth it if you think you can better out of a league minimum contract when factoring the $2.5M hit we'd absorb over years 5-8.
I didn't think it was possible to do so, but if he finishes off as he's gone the last 80+ games, it could still be worth it.
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