Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread: Hey Ken Where's the Help?

[CycloneSweep]

This is a joke right? Marody is nothing compared to him

I mean, that's completely not true

 

[Mr Sakich]

Imo so far the comparable is like...

Khaira, McLeod + whatever picks

I just checked Pronman at the athletic. He had Madden as #40 prospect which is in the range of Broberg. To match this deal, the oilers trade Kharia, Broberg and a 2nd for ufa Toffoli.

IMO, that is a very steep price

 

[CupofOil]

I don't know what the Oilers equivalent of Madden would be, Lavoie perhaps so Lavoie+2nd? I don't see this as a big missed opportunity for the Oilers.
I'm not sure this deal makes sense for the Canucks unless they can re-sign Toffoli but I give Benning credit for being proactive. Again, it seems like a sellers market so I wouldn't expect much from Holland.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Imo so far the comparable is like...

Khaira, McLeod + whatever picks

I think the trade is more along the lines of:

Kharia/Chaisson + Lavoie + 2020 2nd

 

[Jesus Take the Wheel]

I just checked Pronman at the athletic. He had Madden as #40 prospect which is in the range of Broberg. To match this deal, the oilers trade Kharia, Broberg and a 2nd for ufa Toffoli.

IMO, that is a very steep price

Yea I wouldn't be using Pronman to determine trade value...

 

[Cloned]

I don't know what the Oilers equivalent of Madden would be, Lavoie perhaps so Lavoie+2nd? I don't see this as a big missed opportunity for the Oilers.
I'm not sure this deal makes sense for the Canucks unless they can re-sign Toffoli but I give Benning credit for being proactive. Again, it seems like a sellers market so I wouldn't expect much from Holland.

My guess is Benning was unwilling to give up Madden until yesterday, then he panicked and included Madden before the price got any higher.

 

[belair]

I don't know what the Oilers equivalent of Madden would be, Lavoie perhaps so Lavoie+2nd? I don't see this as a big missed opportunity for the Oilers.
I'm not sure this deal makes sense for the Canucks unless they can re-sign Toffoli but I give Benning credit for being proactive. Again, it seems like a sellers market so I wouldn't expect much from Holland.

Lavoie, if he trended upward next season.

What the hell is Jim Benning doing?

 

[Leon Draisaitl]

I think the trade is more along the lines of:

Kharia/Chaisson + Lavoie + 2020 2nd

If we could re-sign him, I'd do that trade 10/10 times (I'm personally not a huge fan of Lavoie though).

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Steep price for Vancouver
Canucks are going for it

 

[CupofOil]

My guess is Benning was unwilling to give up Madden until yesterday, then he panicked and included Madden before the price got any higher.

It seems like a weird trade for Vancouver. If they make the playoffs and are a quick out then lose Toffoli in the offseason, they would have no picks until the 3rd this season and lost a pretty good prospect. I don't see much playoff upside even with this addition so I'm not sure the risk is worth it for them.
This is why Holland needs to be careful to not get caught up in the rental hoopla.

 

[RandomGuy79]

Steep price for Vancouver
Canucks are going for it

Pettersson won't make it out of the 1st round.

 

[Del Preston]

Benning sucks at UFA signings, this will be fun to watch if he tries to re-sign Toffoli. $15.5M wasted on Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel, and Ferland until 2022.

 

[oil Leaks]

If I was Oilers, I'd be willing to package Lavoie or McLeod plus 2020 2nd for the right player

 

[Ritchie Valens]

What's the conditional pick if he re-ups in Van?

 

[McDNicks17]

 

[Nunymare]

That's a trade that Holland would likely give a hard no to if he were Vancouver.

 

[Cloned]

It seems like a weird trade for Vancouver. If they make the playoffs and are a quick out then lose Toffoli in the offseason, they would have no picks until the 3rd this season and lost a pretty good prospect. I don't see much playoff upside even with this addition so I'm not sure the risk is worth it for them.

They need defense, not secondary scoring.

 

[3IR]

What's the conditional pick if he re-ups in Van?

next years 4th

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Benning sucks at UFA signings, this will be fun to watch if he tries to re-sign Toffoli. $15.5M wasted on Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel, and Ferland until 2022.

He went riverboat gambling on Ferland. This is year one of four and the guy may not be able to play at all this season.

 

[Cloned]

At this rate Ennis will need a 2nd.

 

[Smartguy]

Lavoie, if he trended upward next season.

What the hell is Jim Benning doing?

Ya our most equivalent prospect would have been Yamamoto before his recent stint, Madden is 20 and putting up great numbers in college against players older then him.

I don’t think it’s Benning, Canucks ownership has been pushing him I think, hence the Miller trade and signing Myers last offseason and now this, I think the Canucks owners actually think they have a shot at it.

 

[CupofOil]

They need defense, not secondary scoring.

I think they needed a winger for the Horvat line too but this is the type of trade that only elite teams should be making. Maybe they make a surprising run but it's a real longshot even with this addition.

I'm convinced that Holland isn't making a splash now with these high prices. It's going to piss some people off but I think it's better for him to stay away from these type of trades.

 

[FlameChampion]

They need defense, not secondary scoring.

Agreed.

I underestimated Madden a bit I think. They're fan base isnt a fan of this trade.

I just dont think this is a great target for them. I think they should of continued to build their team. I think Vancouver is a pretty decent drafting team. Trade sort of reminds of something Chiarelli would of done. Benning trying to save his job a bit I think.

 

[YakDavid]

Not a huge fan of the prices right now.

 

[Cloned]

I think they needed a winger for the Horvat line too but this is the type of trade that only elite teams should be making. Maybe they make a surprising run but it's a real longshot even with this addition.

I'm convinced that Holland isn't making a splash now with these high prices. It's going to piss some people off but I think it's better for him to stay away from these type of trades.

Probably all true.