Proposal: Rumors and Proposals Thread: Brassard? Risto? Bueller? Bueller?

[Bryanbryoil]

Well shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

We badly need to shed crap contracts not add another one.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

We badly need to shed crap contracts not add another one.

Seems like 80% of the league is in that situation.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Seems like 80% of the league is in that situation.

No doubt. We miraculously rid ourselves of Lucic and then bought out Sekera but the reality is that we still have Gagner and Manning making too much $ (both are UFA's at year's end) and then Kris Russell is the last guy that we likely move out when prospects start showing NHL readiness on D. This season IIRC we have about $4 million of dead cap just from buyouts alone

 

[Randy Butternubs]

No doubt. We miraculously rid ourselves of Lucic and then bought out Sekera but the reality is that we still have Gagner and Manning making too much $ (both are UFA's at year's end) and then Kris Russell is the last guy that we likely move out when prospects start showing NHL readiness on D. This season IIRC we have about $4 million of dead cap just from buyouts alone

Out of curiosity, what's the long term outlook of the Oilers' defense? Not that all players will become what they're projected to be or won't be some part of a trade.

 

[dem]

No doubt. We miraculously rid ourselves of Lucic and then bought out Sekera but the reality is that we still have Gagner and Manning making too much $ (both are UFA's at year's end) and then Kris Russell is the last guy that we likely move out when prospects start showing NHL readiness on D. This season IIRC we have about $4 million of dead cap just from buyouts alone

Just wait till we buyout Neal next year and are on the hook for 1.9 for 6 years...
And 750k for Lucic...


At least that 300k Gryba buyout comes off the books next year!

 

[ThePhoenixx]

I don't think you understand the term "depth"

Because fourth line C's are so hard to find and even a below average C can be made up for by plying McD and Drai a few minutes more. McLeod alone can fill one of those spots soon.

 

[Homesick]

Because fourth line C's are so hard to find and even a below average C can be made up for by plying McD and Drai a few minutes more. McLeod alone can fill one of those spots soon.

again, you have two centres and a big question mark for the 4th line. This team without RNH has no depth down the middle

 

[ThePhoenixx]

again, you have two centres and a big question mark for the 4th line. This team without RNH has no depth down the middle

Are you planning for this year or two years down the road when it will really matter, IMO.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Out of curiosity, what's the long term outlook of the Oilers' defense? Not that all players will become what they're projected to be or won't be some part of a trade.

At the end of this upcoming season the Oil will have 4 prospect defencemen lose their waiver exemptions: Jones, Bear, Lagesson, and Persson.

All 4 have shown well: Persson being one of the higher scoring defencemen in the SHL (both with and without Elias Pettersson on his team); and Jones, Bear, and Lagesson were the key anchors of a defence that helped Bakersfield be one of the top teams in the AHL.

Toss in Brouchard, and you can see why it's a crowded group; and I haven't even mentioned Broberg or Samorukov.

Basically they have 4 names knocking at the door (even if none of them have elite upside), to complement 3 really good/blue-chip prospects.

Mix in the fact Nurse is still pretty young, Klefbom and Larsson are in the early parts of their primes, plus there's Benning too, and the Oil's defence is pretty packed.

It's the reason why Edmonton dealt Marino to Pittsburgh a week or two back; for the next 2 seasons, there isn't a lot of space on the blueline for the Oil at the NHL or AHL level.

 

[Soundwave]

If Holland is trading RNH to get "winger help" I think he's probably largely failed as a GM here.

That is something Chiarelli would do ... create a mess, and then gut one area of strength for another area out of desperation.

I don't think Holland will do that. He's already started to slowly upgrade the winger depth as is by adding Neal, Granlund, and Archibald in for Lucic, Reider, Rattie out.

They will have cap flexibility next summer to take on a big money contract. They could go after a Kreider or Hoffman this season in-season. They still could add a Brassard or Maroon as well this summer too.

There's lots of options there without doing something stupid.

 

[Oilers in NS]

At the end of this upcoming season the Oil will have 4 prospect defencemen lose their waiver exemptions: Jones, Bear, Lagesson, and Persson.

All 4 have shown well: Persson being one of the higher scoring defencemen in the SHL (both with and without Elias Pettersson on his team); and Jones, Bear, and Lagesson were the key anchors of a defence that helped Bakersfield be one of the top teams in the AHL.

Toss in Brouchard, and you can see why it's a crowded group; and I haven't even mentioned Broberg or Samorukov.

Basically they have 4 names knocking at the door (even if none of them have elite upside), to complement 3 really good/blue-chip prospects.

Mix in the fact Nurse is still pretty young, Klefbom and Larsson are in the early parts of their primes, plus there's Benning too, and the Oil's defence is pretty packed.

It's the reason why Edmonton dealt Marino to Pittsburgh a week or two back; for the next 2 seasons, there isn't a lot of space on the blueline for the Oil at the NHL or AHL level.

Great problems to have. Our defence will look exceptionally strong in 2-4 years

 

[bobbythebrain]

If Holland is trading RNH to get "winger help" I think he's probably largely failed as a GM here.

That is something Chiarelli would do ... create a mess, and then gut one area of strength for another area out of desperation.

I don't think Holland will do that. He's already started to slowly upgrade the winger depth as is by adding Neal, Granlund, and Archibald in for Lucic, Reider, Rattie out.

They will have cap flexibility next summer to take on a big money contract. They could go after a Kreider or Hoffman this season in-season. They still could add a Brassard or Maroon as well this summer too.

There's lots of options there without doing something stupid.

He's done with the roster except for Puljujarvi. As per him

 

[Soundwave]

He's done with the roster except for Puljujarvi. As per him

We'll see. If Maroon is able to be had for like $1.5 million dollars or Brassard for $2 mill ... it'd be kinda stupid not to take the chance.

We need every 10+ goal scorer (likely to be ) that we can get.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

We'll see. If Maroon is able to be had for like $1.5 million dollars or Brassard for $2 mill ... it'd be kinda stupid not to take the chance.

We need every 10+ goal scorer (likely to be ) that we can get.

Still blows my mind that Brassard is looking for 4 mill +.

 

[Soundwave]

Still blows my mind that Brassard is looking for 4 mill +.

I think realistically it's dawning on him and his agent that 4 mill is not gonna happen at this point, lol.

Oilers would be a good fit for him, we're one team where he could actually probably see a fair amount of top 6 and 2nd unit PP time with RNH, but it also gives Tippett some center depth for the 3rd line.

 

[HumbleEgomaniac]

Just wait till we buyout Neal next year and are on the hook for 1.9 for 6 years...
And 750k for Lucic...


At least that 300k Gryba buyout comes off the books next year!

Neal can be traded. I don't believe a buyout would be the first option if Neal doesn't work out.

 

[McXLNC97]

Why does it do them no favors? Is it better to toss them into the fire, like we have done with every other defense prospect in the last 6-7 years and watch them fail miserably in their first/second seasons?

Give Persson some PP time and have it so he doesn’t have to be used to kill penalties. Also gives Jones a chance to be eased into the lineup.

Or we could not do that and have another winger that provides absolutely nothing of value to the team dress as the 12th forward like we did for 99% of games last year.

The guy has played 2 seasons in the AHL + 17 NHL games last season....he's 22 now....how much more easing into the linuep do you need? Guy isn't going to be waiver exempt forever.

 

[oXo Cube]

The guy has played 2 seasons in the AHL + 17 NHL games last season....he's 22 now....how much more easing into the linuep do you need? Guy isn't going to be waiver exempt forever.

He's also being slotted in as the #6 AND has to beat out several other guys for that spot.

If Jones/Bear/Lagesson etc can't hack it at this point they almost certainly will never be able to.

 

[Reverend]

So, Max Domi follows Nurse, McDavid and Draisaitl on Instagram. Please. God.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

So, Max Domi follows Nurse, McDavid and Draisaitl on Instagram. Please. God.

Please god what?

 

[Reverend]

Please god what?

Bring Domi to Edmonton?

 

[780il]

So, Max Domi follows Nurse, McDavid and Draisaitl on Instagram. Please. God.

Maybe he just wants to follow some good hockey players?

 

[LMFAO]

So, Max Domi follows Nurse, McDavid and Draisaitl on Instagram. Please. God.

Or maybe JUST maybe they are all good friends and they wanna follow eachother ?

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Bring Domi to Edmonton?

Oh okay then... lol

 

[Reverend]

Or maybe JUST maybe they are all good friends and they wanna follow eachother ?

Yeah, but that’s just me. I like to think for a bit that maybe there’s a hint in there somewhere. That’s how I roll, sadly.