Prospect Info: Round 4, Pick 98: Samuel Dove-McFalls, C, Saint John (QMJHL)

[Curufinwe]

I saw the last part of game 2 on NHLN yesterday, but Saint John were already up 4-0 so there wasn't much going on. They lead the series 2-0.

 

[Larry44]

http://theqmjhl.ca/video-channels/playoffs2016/game-3-sea-dogs-2-armada-0

Dove-McFalls scored a pretty nice goal in this game and got the ENG too. Two goals in a 2-0 victory but not one of the 3 stars!

 

[Rebels57]

http://theqmjhl.ca/video-channels/playoffs2016/game-3-sea-dogs-2-armada-0

Dove-McFalls scored a pretty nice goal in this game and got the ENG too. Two goals in a 2-0 victory but not one of the 3 stars!

Makes so much sense!

 

[Curufinwe]

He's featured on the Flyers website today.

https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/dov...championship--philadelphia-flyers/c-289390606

Dove-McFalls, Sea Dogs capture QMJHL Championship
Flyers prospect will now play for prestigious Memorial Cup

The Sea Dogs went an impressive 16-2 through the QMJHL playoffs with Dove-McFalls, who also serves as an alternate captain for the team, recording five goals and seven assists for 12 points and a +11 rating in 18 games. He also scored both goals in a 2-0 win in Game 3 of the Finals to give Saint John a 3-0 series lead.

He also becomes the fourth straight Flyers prospect to win the QMJHL President Cup joining Philippe Myers (Rouyn-Noranda, 2016), Sam Morin (Rimouski, 2015), and Nicolas Aube-Kubel (Val-d'Or, 2014). He is now looking to become the first Flyers prospect to win the Memorial Cup since Eric Wellwood won in back-to-back years in 2009 and 2010 with the Windsor Spitfires.

 

[dropdeadjoey]

He's featured on the Flyers website today.

https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/dov...championship--philadelphia-flyers/c-289390606

Eric Wellwood is a name I haven't seen in a few years. Wonder what happened to him. I thought he would be a solid bottom 6 guy for the Flyers for at least a few years...

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Eric Wellwood is a name I haven't seen in a few years. Wonder what happened to him. I thought he would be a solid bottom 6 guy for the Flyers for at least a few years...

He's been an assistant coach in the OHL the past few years. He was with the Flint Firebirds this past season.

 

[RoDu]

Eric Wellwood is a name I haven't seen in a few years. Wonder what happened to him. I thought he would be a solid bottom 6 guy for the Flyers for at least a few years...

He had a serious skate to leg kind of laceration that ended his career

 

[dropdeadjoey]

He's been an assistant coach in the OHL the past few years. He was with the Flint Firebirds this past season.

He had a serious skate to leg kind of laceration that ended his career

Thanks for the info guys, explains a lot. I didn't remember the laceration; too bad. Maybe he would be playing in the Flyers bottom six still instead of VDV

 

[hatcher]

Great shutdown player who likes tough hockey like what were watching in the playoffs.

 

[Tripod]

I figured if we were signing him, it would be between now and the Mem. Cup.

Almost like a "reward" for a good season.

 

[Chuck Downie]

Last day to sign. Won't be surprised if he plays CIS next season.

 

[Danko]

i figured they would have announced it yesterday along with the Lindblom signing if they were gonna do it.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Not surprising:

 

[The Madrigal]

Not surprising:

I'm wondering why they didn't sign him. Seems odd to me, potential solid 4th liner in the NHL.

 

[deadhead]

They may be looking at a numbers situation down the road and just decided he was too redundant to have a future, so do the kid a favor.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Headed to Rimouski, so that explains the goodbye.

 

[Larry44]

They may be looking at a numbers situation down the road and just decided he was too redundant to have a future, so do the kid a favor.

Exactly, he may get a better chance if he's drafted by someone else or just signs as a UFA. Not a problem for me. He's a big kid with character but he's not a fast skater and he doesn't have great hands. He's Vandevelde right now, and that's not enough.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Look at their recent drafts. A lot of forwards taken & a lot of them have progressed more than SDM. Add another draft with 11 picks this year it's tough to really see where he would have fit in.

2014:
- Nicolas Aube-Kubel
- Oskar Lindblom
- Radel Fazleev

All three with contracts. NAK & Fazleev going into their second year playing for the organization. Lindblom entering his first.

2015:
- Travis Konecny
- Samuel Dove-McFalls
- Mikhail Vorobyov
- David Kase
- Cooper Marody

Konecny & Vorobyov with contracts. Konecny going into his second year playing with the organization. Vorobyov going into his first.

2016:
- German Rubtsov
- Pascal Laberge
- Wade Allison
- Carson Twarynski
- Connor Bunnaman
- Tanner Laczynski
- Anthony Salinitri

Rubtsov, Laberge, & Bunnaman with contracts. Rubtsov could play in the AHL this season. Otherwise he'll will be joining in 2018-2019 with the other two.

 

[The Madrigal]

Exactly, he may get a better chance if he's drafted by someone else or just signs as a UFA. Not a problem for me. He's a big kid with character but he's not a fast skater and he doesn't have great hands. He's Vandevelde right now, and that's not enough.

Seems like a total waste of an early 4th round pick just two years later though.

 

[Rebels57]

Not a significant loss. Only so many roster spots to go around.

 

[The Madrigal]

Look at their recent drafts. A lot of forwards taken & a lot of them have progressed more than SDM. Add another draft with 11 picks this year it's tough to really see where he would have fit in.

2014:
- Nicolas Aube-Kubel
- Oskar Lindblom
- Radel Fazleev

All three with contracts.

2015:
- Travis Konecny
- Samuel Dove-McFalls
- Mikhail Vorobyov
- David Kase
- Cooper Marody

Konecny & Vorobyov with contracts.

2016:
- German Rubtsov
- Pascal Laberge
- Wade Allison
- Carson Twarynski
- Connor Bunnaman
- Tanner Laczynski
- Anthony Salinitri

Rubtsov, Laberge, & Bunnaman with contracts.

Connor Bunnaman might have made SDM expendable. Seems like a similar prospect but a better version.

 

[The Madrigal]

Speaking of prospects, any updates on how Wade Allison did this year (minus just looking at the numbers)? I really liked that pick last year and think he could have a future in the NHL.

 

[deadhead]

Odds get smaller past 100.
And it's getting crowded on the Flyers' prospect ladder.
Which is good, cutting/trading lesser talent because you have better talent is always good.

Flyers have 5 draft picks in the third/fourth rounds, approximately 50/50 that one of the five plays 400 games and 13% that he's an allstar. Even if you draft above average, when faced with odds like that, you want numbers and aceept the misses.

But if they draft the next Patrick Sharp or Ghost, do you really care if the other four are cut?

 

[Striiker]

Seems like a total waste of an early 4th round pick just two years later though.

The pick was wasted when he didn't become a legit prospect, not by letting him go.

 

[deadhead]

Connor Bunnaman might have made SDM expendable. Seems like a similar prospect but a better version.

I think Vorobyov's develop is what made SDM expendable.
As well as signing MV.