achdumeingute
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And you might never get one, in 40 years.That would be why I said that I'd rather gamble on hitting one of those players every 10-20 years than picking 20 Rinaldos.
And you might never get one, in 40 years.That would be why I said that I'd rather gamble on hitting one of those players every 10-20 years than picking 20 Rinaldos.
Oh, look, it's the 'you have the right to challenge the organization (even though I never heard of this guy or the other guys available besides the one highlight film I watched the other day)' guy. Close the thread. This guy is worthless because I don't know who he is and there were other names I recognized.
Well said. I don't this kid from Adam, but from those two clips, the kid has his head on his shoulders and our scouts liked him. That's how it works. Given his determination to make it, toughness, speed and hands, he'll probably enjoy a long NHL career.
I do have the right. As does everyone else. Especially when you're making dumb picks which is highlighting the organization's refusal to accept what the league has become. This is why the smart teams who win championships do it right at the draft, and we're signing and trading for guys who are in their late 30s. It doesn't matter if he makes the NHL if he's a bad player when he gets there. If the best player available is being compared to Zac Rinaldo, that is a tremendous failure in organizational philosophy. Let's highlight how this failed culture resulted in acceptance of mediocrity:
Still very little about hockey skill. Which means he wasn't the best player available, which means you did it wrong.
I'm not one of those wannabe draft gurus that clearly knows little to nothing about 99% of these players,(like 95% of the people on this board), however any time you draft a guy that didn't even expected to be drafted, in the THIRD ROUND... that's without a doubt a bad pick.
Look, I never said it was a good pick. All I am saying is that you know exactly jack boo about this kid, and probably only a tiny miniscule amount more about whomever it was you had in mind. You can say you don't like the pick. That is fine. I don't really like it either. I would have rather seen them pick the guy Minnesota picked a few picks later (Kurtis Gabriel). But I am not going to sit here and say they got it wrong and should have picked him because one time I saw a clip about him. That is ridiculous. You (and most others on here) don't know Goulbourne. You (and most others on here) probably don't know many of the other guys drafted in the third round outside of random tweets and youtube clips. You saw a couple lists and Goulbourne wasn't on them. So they are wrong.
Look, I never said it was a good pick. All I am saying is that you know exactly jack boo about this kid, and probably only a tiny miniscule amount more about whomever it was you had in mind. You can say you don't like the pick. That is fine. I don't really like it either. I would have rather seen them pick the guy Minnesota picked a few picks later (Kurtis Gabriel). But I am not going to sit here and say they got it wrong and should have picked him because one time I saw a clip about him. That is ridiculous. You (and most others on here) don't know Goulbourne. You (and most others on here) probably don't know many of the other guys drafted in the third round outside of random tweets and youtube clips. You saw a couple lists and Goulbourne wasn't on them. So they are wrong.
Tell that to Keith Jones! When he was told he was drafted he thought there was a war going on.
If you don't think some teams use YouTube clips to evaluate players, I have a bridge to sell you.
Even at that, Morganti and Coatsey are doing hits on CSN about the draft, do you think those guys are sitting at home on nights off watching YouTube clips and CHL webcasts of the hundreds of draft hopefuls? Because I'm sure you'd argue six ways to Sunday that they know more than a guy on the other side of a computer screen.
Fire Mark Greig. He is the WHL scout that pushed for Garret Klotz as well.
He's a ****ing scout? Dude was barely an NHL player. Is every member of this front office a former "player"? All marginal ones at that?!
I don't think too many good NHL players who made millions of dollars during their careers are looking to sign up for a job that pays some of the lowest $ out of any official hockey capacity job in the organization and has you travelling from bumble**** alberta to ***backwards ontario hitting every rinky dink town along the way and staying in motel 6's.
Do they use YouTube? Sure. Why wouldn't they? Is that the ONLY thing they use? If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
I hope I'm not Morganti or Coatsey because they're moronic hired guns who play to the crowd who stay stuck in the 70s.That's fine. But you are not Coatsey or Morganti (and I didn't hear what they had to say so I can't really comment on what they are saying). Again, I don't like the pick either. But I also am not informed enough to call it a bad pick. Especially before the kid ever even has a shot. Will it turn out to be a "bad" pick? It very well may. The guy chosen right behind him may turn out to be an all-star. But also he may not. I don't know, and neither do you. And it isn't because we can't see the future, it's because you don't know who Goulbourne is, nor do you know who any of the other guys are, outside of a tweet from a random hockey blogger or a youtube highlight reel.
Are you going to chime in about who the best up and coming cricket player is because you saw some youtube clips or read a rankings list? Probabyl not.
I don't think too many good NHL players who made millions of dollars during their careers are looking to sign up for a job that pays some of the lowest $ out of any official hockey capacity job in the organization and has you travelling from bumble**** alberta to ***backwards ontario hitting every rinky dink town along the way and staying in motel 6's.
This sillyness in deflecting with reverse-rhetorical points doesn't help your case.
I hope I'm not Morganti or Coatsey because they're moronic hired guns who play to the crowd who stay stuck in the 70s.
I just hope at some point we'll be able to pull this thread up and have a laugh at how wrong we all were. But really... another Klotz? I hope not.
Not defending it, but my god, can this kid fight.
We should've and could've easily gotten him in the 5th, but if Holmgren thinks he's Zac Rinaldo 2.0, some around here are going to love him. Remember how we all disliked the Rinaldo pick? Then he turned into an NHLer.
Still think this pick could have been used much more appropriately, but if Holmgren says he's an NHLer, there's usually something to that.
EDIT: I also want to point out something seemingly obvious and evident if you closely at who the Flyers have taken in the last few drafts on the outside and who they've wanted but fell short on.
The Flyers love Brad Marchand and Milan Lucic. They're looking for guys who might end up being of ilk. Not that they've found them, but they're looking.