GDT: Round 1 G6: Capitals @ Panthers

[HTFN]

It’s not like he has had the team in its prime. I don’t think it’s a coaching issue.

THe issue with this team was they were old and slow... they had almost 3 months of straight suckage because of it. The team had to literally sellout to keep winning towards the end of the season. And the whole time, McM was benched numerous times.. AJF was used sparingly if ever. Backstrom came back and was given top minutes even though he basically sucks at this point. There are alot of things you can pin on Lavi and much of it is well deserved. He needs to be on the first flight out of here along with GMBM.

This is it, although my take on GMBM is a little different.

They leaned on their oldest and often injured players, refused to groom young talent all year, and then left themselves no options in the playoffs because they couldn’t trust anybody else.

They painted themselves into a corner and then shot themselves in the foot and a lot of us were calling it as soon as the injury bug stopped forcing Laviolette’s hand early in the season. That’s the period they probably looked their best, too.

 

[mad4comp]

Bravo boys, way to take a simple dump in and turn it into a turnover.

And question for the guys who have played a lot of hockey. When a puck is sent along the boards, turning up ice to try to take it in stride … we do that an awful lot and to me it’s why we have so much trouble getting pucks out of the zone. I don’t know if Carlson misjudged it or didn’t realize he was on ice but he had a chance to control that puck.

Because we're not quick enough to get to the pucks with some space. Florida basically sent a two man forecheck every shift and they still made it back up the ice before our guys did.

 

[McVechkin]

Easy to say but who would trade for them?

Eller will have 1 more year at 3.5. Lots of teams would love that veteran center depth with cup winning experience on that low risk contract. He would be an easy trade. The caps have too much already committed in the aging core and he is the easy man to cut based on his contract to get cap space and roster spot for young blood. But he does still have value left to give.

 

[Hivemind]

There's plenty of blame to go around, and feel free to hit the game 5 and game 6 whipping boys plenty. But one goal in 6 games from Alexander Ovechkin is simply not good enough for the franchise cornerstone. I can't recall Ovie ever looking this bad in the playoffs, even in the CoVID bubble. He needs to bear the burden for this one.

 

[mad4comp]

There's plenty of blame to go around, and feel free to hit the game 5 and game 6 whipping boys plenty. But one goal in 6 games from Alexander Ovechkin is simply not good enough for the franchise cornerstone. I can't recall Ovie ever looking this bad in the playoffs, even in the CoVID bubble. He needs to bear the burden for this one.

he looks injured.

 

[Caps8112]

Ready to move on from both goalies at the very least.

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Saw this in January. They are the oct- early December Stanley cup champions…

 

[HTFN]

Remember when half this forum mocked the idea of trading Carlson last year?

Kind of half the picture, we were mocking trading him to sign true 1d Dougie Hamilton who…. was pretty objectively a worse option than Carlson

 

[Holtbyisms]

Samsonov played pretty well, he the #1 going into next year or you think we trade draft capital to aquire a solid veteran?

 

[Gopack76]

Right now GMBM is trying to figure out how he can give away more draft picks while making this team older and slower.

 

[Firsov99]

Ready to move on from both goalies at the very least.

For real. At the minimum. A lot of work to do.

 

[mad4comp]

Saw this in January. They are the oct- early December Stanley cup champions…

No, the youngin's were oct-early december SC champions.... then the geriatric cavalry showed up.

 

[Hivemind]

Kind of half the picture, we were mocking trading him to sign true 1d Dougie Hamilton who…. was pretty objectively a worse option than Carlson

That wasn't the only proposal regarding sending Carlson out.

Moreover, even if you don't trust Hamilton, he could have very easily matched what Carlson brought (or didn't bring) this series while the assets returned in the Carlson trade could have helped the team significantly elsewhere. That was the concept of that proposal all along.

 

[Caps8112]

Samsonov played pretty well, he the #1 going into next year or you think we trade draft capital to aquire a solid veteran?

I'm done with him. Talent is there, mental game is 0

 

[EroCaps]

There's plenty of blame to go around, and feel free to hit the game 5 and game 6 whipping boys plenty. But one goal in 6 games from Alexander Ovechkin is simply not good enough for the franchise cornerstone. I can't recall Ovie ever looking this bad in the playoffs, even in the CoVID bubble. He needs to bear the burden for this one.

He’s clearly hurt and still scored a point per game.

No.

 

[Hivemind]

Samsonov played pretty well, he the #1 going into next year or you think we trade draft capital to aquire a solid veteran?

They can't go into next season with this same tandem. At least one of the two needs to be gone (along with the goalie coach, obviously) and a veteran 1A/1B needs to be brought in for stability.

 

[mad4comp]

the only way we should keep sammy is if Trotz and Korn come back, otherwise Sammy should be kicked right out the door.

 

[Misery74]

He’s clearly hurt and still scored a point per game.

No.

He was absolutely awful these past two games. Unacceptably bad.

 

[Firsov99]

Samsonov played pretty well, he the #1 going into next year or you think we trade draft capital to aquire a solid veteran?

Good question. Sam wasn't bad (not stellar though) in the playoffs, but would you want to stick with him long-term? I think we have to look for a new #1. Sam might stay as a backup. Vanny, who clearly has a lower ceiling, - out.

 

[Caps8112]

He’s clearly hurt and still scored a point per game.

No.

I'd bet ovi playedthis series with an injury that most of us couldn't have gone to our regular jobs and he still threw body checks everywhere he could. It's disappointing that he got hurt with 3 games to go

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

I asked that it ended quick either way so at least there’s that!

Can’t decide if I’m mad or not. The Caps played better than expected but Florida was clinical punishing the Caps for their mistakes. Turn the puck over in the neutral zone? Goal. Fail to clear the puck when you have a chance? Goal. Make a dumb decision and try to stick handle into the zone instead of dumping it? Goal. A bit lazy on the back check or late to cover in front? Goal. Just too much stupid and too much cheat in their game given the speed and talent disparity and they ultimately blew multiple chances to take control of the series. The Caps blew leads in three straight games including two leads tonight and a three goal lead in G5 plus they missed an easy chance to ice G4. Simply not good enough against a team as talented and fast as the Panthers.

Will be an interesting summer. I expect changes to be made but that discussion can wait until tomorrow.

 

[McVechkin]

he looks injured.

Meh. His shoulder looked physically fine.

 

[EroCaps]

He was absolutely awful these past two games. Unacceptably bad.

No, he wasn’t.

Carlson, Mantha, Fever, Sheary, all dogshit.

At least 8 wasn’t handing them goals.

 

[marcel snapshot]

So many different ways to break our hearts and make us sad

 

[Caps8112]

I asked that it ended quick either way so at least there’s that!

Can’t decide if I’m mad or not. The Caps played better than expected but Florida was clinical punishing the Caps for their mistakes. Turn the puck over in the neutral zone? Goal. Fail to clear the puck when you have a chance? Goal. Make a dumb decision and try to stick handle into the zone instead of dumping it? Goal. A bit lazy on the back check or late to cover in front? Goal. Just too much stupid and too much cheat in their game given the speed and talent disparity and they ultimately blew multiple chances to take control of the series. The Caps blew leads in three straight games including two leads tonight and a three goal lead in G5 plus they missed an easy chance to ice G4. Simply not good enough against a team as talented and fast as the Panthers.

Will be an interesting summer. I expect changes to be made but that discussion can wait until tomorrow.

Bet they are still wondering how they didn't win in 4 or 5 tho..... experience