Roster Speculation 2014-2015, Part VIII

[Gras]

Kane - Girgs/Reinhart - Ennis
Moulson - Reinhart/Girgs - Gionta/xxx
Coho - Grigs - Gionta/xxx
Des - Larsson - Foligno

McCormick
Flynn
Kaleta

 

[Jame]

I don't watch enough of the yotes to have an opinion. Are there any good stats that support the idea he is good or bad on the defensive side?

he plays low QOC
he gets high ozone starts
he is on the ice for a lot of goals against anyways
he has lots of turnovers

there are lots of top offensive defensemen who have bad GA data because they are on bad teams. But none of them pull it off against the weak competition that Yandle sees

Tippett, a very defensive minded coach, does everything he can to protect/hide Yandle.

 

[ZeroPT*]

he plays low QOC
he gets high ozone starts
he is on the ice for a lot of goals against anyways
he has lots of turnovers

there are lots of top offensive defensemen who have bad GA data because they are on bad teams. But none of them pull it off against the weak competition that Yandle sees

Tippett, a very defensive minded coach, does everything he can to protect/hide Yandle.

that's because they have a clearly superior OEL soaking up the big minutes and difficult assignments

 

[Paxon]

No interest in Yandle. Costs too much for what he is.

 

[Sabretooth]

Kane - Girgs/Reinhart - Ennis
Moulson - Reinhart/Girgs - Gionta/xxx
Coho - Grigs - Gionta/xxx
Des - Larsson - Foligno

McCormick
Flynn
Kaleta

So... no Eichel/McDavid?

 

[Gras]

So... no Eichel/McDavid?

I'd slot in either the 2nd or 3rd wing to start the season. One wing slot is open by design.

 

[Jame]

that's because they have a clearly superior OEL soaking up the big minutes and difficult assignments

yea, he has a top pair ahead of him, soaking up minutes... allowing easier minutes, situations... and yet he's still on the ice for the 3rd most ES goals against in the NHL last year, and he's on pace for the same this year.

last year Phoenix's GA dropped by 1.2 when he's off the ice... the just awful, especially given his competition/situation.

2013-2014
w/ Yandle 3.03 GA per 60 ES
w/o Yandle 1.86 GA per 60 ES

 

[ZeroPT*]

yea, he has a top pair ahead of him, soaking up minutes... allowing easier minutes, situations... and yet he's still on the ice for the 3rd most ES goals against in the NHL last year, and he's on pace for the same this year.

last year Phoenix's GA dropped by 1.2 when he's off the ice... the just awful, especially given his competition/situation.

2013-2014
w/ Yandle 3.03 GA per 60 ES
w/o Yandle 1.86 GA per 60 ES

where are you finding these stats?

 

[joshjull]

where are you finding these stats?

I'm guessing from here


http://behindthenet.ca

 

[ZeroPT*]

I'm guessing from here


http://behindthenet.ca

I can't find where it says Yandle and his GA/60 is. All I see is corsi,zone starts,sh%, sv%, ice time metrics and PDO.

 

[Paxon]

Why?

It happens as close to as often as it doesn't, if not more often. Crosby played wing until Lemieux retired. MacKinnon played wing last year. Seguin started out at wing in Boston.

 

[Broken Glass]

If you want the best mentor for McEichel: Jagr or MSL. I'd offer 1 year, 5-6 million.

Was also thinking MSL.

 

[sabrebuild]

that's because they have a clearly superior OEL soaking up the big minutes and difficult assignments

Ya assuming the numbers are right, your argument doesn't help you. Your basically saying that OEL takes the big minutes and hard assignments, so that means Yandle can't even handle the lesser minutes and the easier assignments.

 

[Myllz]

It happens as close to as often as it doesn't, if not more often. Crosby played wing until Lemieux retired. MacKinnon played wing last year. Seguin started out at wing in Boston.

I know it happens, but I don't know why you'd make that call right now not even knowing what the roster looks like for next season.

 

[MayDayMayDay]

So I guess the basketball Tyler Ennis got traded today. I saw the words "acquire Tyler Ennis" scroll across the bottom of my TV screen just now and about had a ********* heart attack.

 

[sabrebuild]

So I guess the basketball Tyler Ennis got traded today. I saw the words "acquire Tyler Ennis" scroll across the bottom of my TV screen just now and about had a ********* heart attack.

 

[Selanne00008]

Was also thinking MSL.

I like jagr and his puck control skillz. But MSL could keep up with Kane and mceichel better... And I'd like to see that more I think.

 

[Beerz]

LeBrun was just on Insider Trading tonight and said ROR is on Sabres "radar" ... Said the other 1st round pick is on the table in a package for him and Tim Murray is not afraid to go out and get the player he wants.


Edit: Sees it as an offseason move.

http://www.tsn.ca/video/insider-trading-bergenheim-s-trade-from-panthers-imminent-1.211363

 

[JOHNBOY]

What would Colorado want for ROR? Have to think a kings ransom....

 

[ZeroPT*]

What would Colorado want for ROR? Have to think a kings ransom....

They can't ask for one. He has a year left on his deal.

Prospect+young roster player+1st.

Grigorenko+Pysyk+other 1st rounder

 

[start winnin]

Reinhart + O'Reilly is Jame's wet dream

 

[Revelate]

Lebrun on ROR:

"I can tell you one team that would like to get their hands on him and that's the Buffalo Sabres. They won't be alone. There's going to be a long list of teams if and when the Avalanche really put this guy in play. Now with the Avs falling out of the playoff race, one would think that would probably wait until the summer. BUT we know one thing about Tim Murray in Buffalo, he showed it with the Evander Kane deal. He's not scared to go after something and make a giganctic deal and i'm told that other first round pick, the low pick, he's willing to throw that in the package for ROR, if the time comes in the offseason."

 

[Rhett4]

Lebrun on ROR:

"I can tell you one team that would like to get their hands on him and that's the Buffalo Sabres. They won't be alone. There's going to be a long list of teams if and when the Avalanche really put this guy in play. Now with the Avs falling out of the playoff race, one would think that would probably wait until the summer. BUT we know one thing about Tim Murray in Buffalo, he showed it with the Evander Kane deal. He's not scared to go after something and make a giganctic deal and i'm told that other first round pick, the low pick, he's willing to throw that in the package for ROR, if the time comes in the offseason."

If they can sign him, I would be all in. I can't see Murray trading away a big package for a year's worth of service, though.

 

[TehDoak]

Lebrun on ROR:

"I can tell you one team that would like to get their hands on him and that's the Buffalo Sabres. They won't be alone. There's going to be a long list of teams if and when the Avalanche really put this guy in play. Now with the Avs falling out of the playoff race, one would think that would probably wait until the summer. BUT we know one thing about Tim Murray in Buffalo, he showed it with the Evander Kane deal. He's not scared to go after something and make a giganctic deal and i'm told that other first round pick, the low pick, he's willing to throw that in the package for ROR, if the time comes in the offseason."

I'd ask where Jame, but pretty sure he's picking up "supplies" just in case

 

[Sean McG]

Lebrun on ROR:

"I can tell you one team that would like to get their hands on him and that's the Buffalo Sabres. They won't be alone. There's going to be a long list of teams if and when the Avalanche really put this guy in play. Now with the Avs falling out of the playoff race, one would think that would probably wait until the summer. BUT we know one thing about Tim Murray in Buffalo, he showed it with the Evander Kane deal. He's not scared to go after something and make a giganctic deal and i'm told that other first round pick, the low pick, he's willing to throw that in the package for ROR, if the time comes in the offseason."

Oh man. I pray that no one trades for him at the deadline so Murray can make this happen prior to/at the the draft. Always loved O'Reilly and would want him regardless, but I'm a big proponent of starting out young centers and wing for at least their first 10-20 games, depending on the player. ROR would fit in perfectly as a top six C next season, and the long-term a top six winger or very good 3rd line C.