Roster Speculation 2014-2015, Part VIII

[cramdizzl]

Go ahead and flame me, but I like putting Ennis on that line. I don't think we've really seen what he can do playing with high end talent. good mix of speed, strength, IQ

At worst, he's a 1st-line placeholder for Bailey or Baptiste or some other elite player to be acquired later.

I agree. Even if he doesn't stick, I just need to see what Ennis can do when given some legit help.

Giving Hodgson linemates such as Kane and McEichel could do wonders for his value.

FTFY

Would not be a bad idea at all. There will probably be a new coach that hasn't soured on Hodgson like Nolan has, so put him on the top line, let him pot ~20 goals again, and ship him out for the best offer received. He's not in the future plans but they shouldn't be in a rush to move him right away, especially with his value as low as it will likely ever be.

 

[CaptPantalones]

I've been thinking about this for a while, but I want either mcdavid or eichel playing wing to start off their careers.

That being said, if it's mcdavid, I want to see him on the wing with Reinhart at c

 

[struckbyaparkedcar]

I wouldn't pay him enough to buy a gumball. He's not at all what we need to complete the defense.

He's logged huge minutes in difficult situations for one of the best teams in hockey, and plays more at ES than Seabrook. We need a mobile, defensively oriented LHD, and depending on Coburn, Siedenberg, etc, Oduya might be the best option on the market.

I'd give him 15 over 3 years.

 

[Jame]

He's logged huge minutes in difficult situations for one of the best teams in hockey, and plays more at ES than Seabrook. We need a mobile, defensively oriented LHD, and depending on Coburn, Siedenberg, etc, Oduya might be the best option on the market.

I'd give him 15 over 3 years.

Im definitely interested in any veteran LHD that can be signed for 3 years.

My concern, is that I happen to think Nik the Hammer is one of the best defensemen in the NHL. And Oduya will be 34 to start next season.

Is he an upgrade to Gorges? I don't know.

 

[ZeroPT*]

I'd love Coburn. Yandle would be a good addition. Oduya? meh. He's old. I don't watch enough Chicago to make a truly accurate statement on him tbh

 

[mgeise]

He's logged huge minutes in difficult situations for one of the best teams in hockey, and plays more at ES than Seabrook. We need a mobile, defensively oriented LHD, and depending on Coburn, Siedenberg, etc, Oduya might be the best option on the market.

I'd give him 15 over 3 years.

I'd definitely be in favor of that. Oduya and Beauchemin are looking like the ideal targets this offseason IMO. I'd give either of them big money over three years to make it happen. It would be nice to have another capable veteran around in the short-term as Ristolainen, Zadorov, Pysyk, and McCabe become important cogs.

 

[Needles]

If you want the best mentor for McEichel: Jagr or MSL. I'd offer 1 year, 5-6 million.

 

[Gabrielor]

Im definitely interested in any veteran LHD that can be signed for 3 years.

My concern, is that I happen to think Nik the Hammer is one of the best defensemen in the NHL. And Oduya will be 34 to start next season.

Is he an upgrade to Gorges? I don't know.

Hjalmarson definitely isn't the first guy Chicago would try to move for cap concerns, but he was at all available, that's an obvious play.

I'd be curious to know what a Hjalmarson package would cost? I'm guessing Grigorenko+, but Hjalmarson-Bogosian as pair one makes that enticing if its possible.

 

[Mit Yarrum]

I like the idea of signing Stewart to a 3 year deal. I've come around on him, inconsistency and all. I;d rather a 2 year deal, but I don't think he signs that.

 

[ZeroPT*]

Stewart sucks. No way.

Don't let his 15 games hot streak fool you. He's hot garbage and has like negative hockey sense.

 

[Mit Yarrum]

Stewart sucks. No way.

Don't let his 15 games hot streak fool you. He's hot garbage and has like negative hockey sense.

His hot streak has not fooled me. I don't recall saying anything about it, quite the opposite actually. Re-read my post.

 

[ZeroPT*]

His hot streak has not fooled me. I don't recall saying anything about it, quite the opposite actually. Re-read my post.

Why do you want him then? Do you not remember how putrid he was before his hot streak? He was awful. Even in his hot streak he hasn't been that good. He's produced but his overall game is terrible. Coasts in the D-zone, rarely makes smart plays in the O-zone,etc..

 

[Jame]

I'd love Coburn. Yandle would be a good addition. Oduya? meh. He's old. I don't watch enough Chicago to make a truly accurate statement on him tbh

im interested in Coburn... but with 1 year left... there's probably no deal there.

I've never liked Yandle... he's a glorified PP specialist. That said, we could use a PP specialist.

I've always disliked players like Yandle. He's just not good defensively. I understand their value, but their liabilities are not what I want eating up minutes in the playoffs. The market/cap value of what they provide does not work for me.

 

[Beerz]

Stewart sucks. No way.

Don't let his 15 games hot streak fool you. He's hot garbage and has like negative hockey sense.

Stewart has his warts but he does not suck...and is not a cancer and every other hyperbolic statement thrown his way.

 

[Foligno17]

Especially as thin as we are projected to be without Stewart at right wing, I wouldn't mind seeing him signed. You have to wonder if he wants to stay at this point.

 

[Beerz]

Having said that... trade him.

Swing around in July to see if a reasonable deal can be had if better options aren't available

 

[ZeroPT*]

Even if Yandle is seen as a glorified PP specialist, he's out produced Weber,Keith and Subban since April 2013 while playing on the Coyotes who are renowned fore not scoring. He's a stud. Even if his Defense is lacking he's absolutely elite offensively. Pairing him with Bogosian would be perfect.

I would understand about not wanting to pay the price it would cost but I have no questions about his ability. He's a stud.

Stewart has his warts but he does not suck...and is not a cancer and every other hyperbolic statement thrown his way.

I didn't call him a cancer. He's just not good. I don't want any part of him. He should have been moved last deadline.

 

[Jame]

Hjalmarson definitely isn't the first guy Chicago would try to move for cap concerns, but he was at all available, that's an obvious play.

I'd be curious to know what a Hjalmarson package would cost? I'm guessing Grigorenko+, but Hjalmarson-Bogosian as pair one makes that enticing if its possible.

Hjalmarrson is pretty much the best cap contract in the entire NHL right

4.1 for 4.5 MORE seasons and he's only 27

He's untouchable. Seabrook would be traded before Hammer.

 

[Mit Yarrum]

Plays a heavy game, protects his linemates well, and though inconsistent he puts up solid enough points over the course of the year.

I like him over someone like Foligno (ours), as an example. Add in the fact that our depth there is not great, and I'd like to see him signed to a reasonable deal.

I'm not losing sleep over it though.

 

[Jame]

Even if Yandle is seen as a glorified PP specialist, he's out produced Weber,Keith and Subban since April 2013 while playing on the Coyotes who are renowned fore not scoring. He's a stud. Even if his Defense is lacking he's absolutely elite offensively. Pairing him with Bogosian would be perfect.

I would understand about not wanting to pay the price it would cost but I have no questions about his ability. He's a stud.


I didn't call him a cancer. He's just not good. I don't want any part of him. He should have been moved last deadline.

He got left off the olympic team for the same reason i have very little interest in him

he's a regular season stud... that's the problem

 

[Beerz]

Even if Yandle is seen as a glorified PP specialist, he's out produced Weber,Keith and Subban since April 2013 while playing on the Coyotes who are renowned fore not scoring. He's a stud. Even if his Defense is lacking he's absolutely elite offensively. Pairing him with Bogosian would be perfect.

I would understand about not wanting to pay the price it would cost but I have no questions about his ability. He's a stud.


I didn't call him a cancer. He's just not good. I don't want any part of him. He should have been moved last deadline.

I didn't mean to imply you did...it went along with all the other hyperbolic statements thrown at him

 

[ZeroPT*]

He got left off the olympic team for the same reason i have very little interest in him

he's a regular season stud... that's the problem

We aren't really in position to reject guys for their playoff performances. He's among one of the best transitional D-men in the league and is a stud offensively. He's exactly what we need.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading a 2016 and 2017 2nd for Coburn like the Boychuck deal. I like that option a lot

I didn't mean to imply you did...it went along with all the other hyperbolic statements thrown at him

My bad mate

 

[Jame]

We aren't really in position to reject guys for their playoff performances. He's among one of the best transitional D-men in the league and is a stud offensively. He's exactly what we need.

I'm not rejecting him for playoff performance, i'm rejecting him because his game gets you knocked out of the playoffs. He's a liability.

Defensemen that are bad defensively... is generally a non starter for me. unless its a depth/role player.

Brian Campbell 2007

 

[Djp]

Am I the only one that wants a D prospect in exchange for Stewart? We're very thin on the blue line as far as quality prospects are concerned.

In saying that, I'd ask for Harrington (and probably be denied) if the Pens ccall for Stewart.

Buffalo needs Defense prospects on their ELC in 15/16. As of now they project to have only McCabe and Austin. Florentino could turn pro but I see him waiting till 16/17 and turn pro the same year as Martin. Any dmen they draft this year likely doesnt play in Rochester.

for some of these trades instead of 3rd round picks I ask for some secondary dmen ELC players.

I like the idea of signing Stewart to a 3 year deal. I've come around on him, inconsistency and all. I;d rather a 2 year deal, but I don't think he signs that.

I dont have an issue in signing Stewart to 2-3 yr contract.

 

[Jim Bob]

He got left off the olympic team for the same reason i have very little interest in him

he's a regular season stud... that's the problem

Really?

http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/y/yandlke01.html

Career Regular Season PPG: 0.56
Career Playoff PPG: 0.70