Line Combos: Roster for 2021/2022 Season

[surixon]

Nope. Ladd was traded tdl 2016, Perrault signed that deal in July 2016. He was a top 6er in 16-17 and to start 17-18 prior to getting hurt and Connor emerging. Perrault did have one year left on the previous deal though if thats what u mean.

Stastny is a 1 yr deal vs perreault being 4. Statsny was better than PLD last year, and is still an effective second line C.

There's no reason why he should be on the forth line barely playing. And he isn't a fit with Lowry and Copp

Stastny probably gets around the same money else where. And he's an effective player so I don't see why it's a bad thing. Forth line is useless for him.

Paul has declined and he's at the age where he could fall off a cliff in terms of impact. I hope that if he isn't effective we don't leave him in the top 6 just because his contract and because he is a vet.

 

[DRW204]

Fair enough - my contract source was wrong

not sure who said stats contract was a bad thing? But I like I said 10-12 mins on the fourth line mentoring young guys and saving him for playoffs makes a lot of sense... I’m not sure he’s better than Copp in the top six over the course of the season - we will see

Well if he's on the forth line then we likely have inferior talent getting far more critical top 6 minutes ie: ves and Svechnikov. Stastny with no wheels is still far better and more impactful of a player than those two.

 

[DRW204]

Paul has declined and he's at the age where he could fall off a cliff in terms of impact. I hope that if he isn't effective we don't leave him in the top 6 just because his contract and because he is a vet.

OK? I don't think it's a secret he's declined. Yet him declining is still far better than anyone else vying for top 6 (ie Svechnikov, Harkins, ves) and him declined still was the second best c on the team last year. His game isn't predicated on speed and really hasn't had wheels for years. Is he going to lose his brain /hockey iq this year?

 

[LowLefty]

OK? I don't think it's a secret he's declined. Yet him declining is still far better than anyone else vying for top 6 (ie Svechnikov, Harkins, ves) and him declined still was the second best c on the team last year. His game isn't predicated on speed and really hasn't had wheels for years. Is he going to lose his brain /hockey iq this year?

Probably not - but he could be a little short on stamina - especially as the season progresses.
He a good player - but brain / HIQ will not be enough sometimes (probably why they retire at some point).

 

[WolfHouse]

Probably not - but he could be a little short on stamina - especially as the season progresses.
He a good player - but brain / HIQ will not be enough sometimes (probably why they retire at some point).

This is basically my whole point of putting him on 4th line and PP specialist... keep him fresh for the playoffs

Copp-PLD-Ehlers is a good line

 

[DRW204]

not concerned about stastny at all... he'll do his thing, drive offense set up plays and be good defensively and on the dot (the actual things a good 200 ft C needs to do). you pair him with a finisher like Ehlers or KC, and that line will be strong (as seen copp-stasny-ehlers was our best line last yr). the guy doesn't have wheels to lose (frankly, his first tenure the jets he had none lol). he'll be fine.

im more worried about wheeler's toi and usage than stastnys

 

[surixon]

OK? I don't think it's a secret he's declined. Yet him declining is still far better than anyone else vying for top 6 (ie Svechnikov, Harkins, ves) and him declined still was the second best c on the team last year. His game isn't predicated on speed and really hasn't had wheels for years. Is he going to lose his brain /hockey iq this year?

According to Moe we are going to be playing a system that is more based on speed and involves more skating. So that may cause some additional issues for some of our older players.

His IQ will help no doubt but if his other skills continue to diminish then it will only make up so much.

Yeah he was ok last year but that is more due to PLD having a real tough year then Paul actually being good. He clearly starts in the top 6 this year but I hope if Cole shows better at some point or if he declines further we don't hesitate to make a change.

If he's solid in the role then fine keep him there but I'm a bit worried about some of our age/speed and ability in the top 6 this year with Paul and Blake being another year older.

Hopefully Blake bounced back a bit because it looked like the cliff was last year for him.

 

[WolfHouse]

Again based on pomo’s preseason comments our best deployment is
CSW
Copp-PLD-Ehlers
Harkins-Lowry-Nash
Perfetti/Ves-statsny-svechnikov/Ves

stats quarterbacks PP2 with Ehlers

 

[10Ducky10]

I think he was a bit of a backup in case Copper didn't sign. I would move him to the third line as soon as somebody proved they deserve the spot.
I still think it was an important signing.

 

[WolfHouse]

I think he was a bit of a backup in case Copper didn't sign. I would move him to the third line as soon as somebody proved they deserve the spot.
I still think it was an unimportant signing.

We will never really know but if stats said I’ll re-sign and bring Schmidt... that could be pretty important

 

[surixon]

Again based on pomo’s preseason comments our best deployment is
CSW
Copp-PLD-Ehlers
Harkins-Lowry-Nash
Perfetti/Ves-statsny-svechnikov/Ves

stats quarterbacks PP2 with Ehlers

He's not playing Cole on the fourth line, pretty much said as much in his PC. Said he doesn't like using skill young guys there unless its for a very short time to transition them up. Given our roster can't see Chevy even entertaining lossing a year off his elc to play him 6 to 8 minutes a game.

 

[Imcanadianeh]

I’m not too worried about Wheeler, it’s well known he played most of last season with cracked ribs, he still managed to pace for 75 points over 82 games.

The last 10 games of the season when Wheeler was actually healed and healthy at 5v5 he had a 49.42CF%, 50.00FF%, 52.63GF%, 55.09 xGF%, 56.00HDCF% along with 10 points (5v5) and 13 points total.

 

[surixon]

I’m not too worried about Wheeler, it’s well known he played most of last season with cracked ribs, he still managed to pace for 75 points over 82 games.

The last 10 games of the season when Wheeler was actually healed and healthy at 5v5 he had a 49.42CF%, 50.00FF%, 52.63GF%, 55.09 xGF%, 56.00HDCF% along with 10 points (5v5) and 13 points total.

Short sample, he did the same the year before as well only to fall apart in the playoffs without Mark. He fell apart without Mark again in the playoffs this year as well.

He's still a good point chizziler but needs to be propped up by his linemates.

 

[EpicGingy]

As much as I think Perfetti will be a very important piece of our future my guess is he is still another year away. We are lucky though we can develop him on the Moose rather than have him go back to the CHL.

Yeah I'm not betting on him making the team full time this year (although I'd be positively thrilled to be proven wrong), it was just a tongue in cheek comment.

 

[Imcanadianeh]

Short sample, he did the same the year before as well only to fall apart in the playoffs without Mark. He fell apart without Mark again in the playoffs this year as well.

He's still a good point chizziler but needs to be propped up by his linemates.

Very true that it’s a small sample, but you used two even smaller samples to prove your point.

 

[surixon]

Very true that it’s a small sample, but you used two even smaller samples to prove your point.

Well there is also another 50 games of him suckling last year and he's another year older.

 

[bennylundholm]

They clearly didn't sign him to play fourth line but they also clearly didn't sign Perrault to spend most of his time there either.

Plans can change, we saw Conner force the issue and knock a vet down the lineup before and I could easily see it happening again if Stastny losses a step and/or if Cole forces the issue at some point this season.

We have seen it happen before with this team so it could happen again.

doesn't really matter to me I'd he's making that on the fourth if we have a player on his ELC in the top 6.

Bingo.

 

[surixon]

Bingo.

Yup and Stastny was pretty much signed as a placeholder for Cole anyhow so I doubt the org will have much if any issue advancing Cole ahead of him if/when he proves ready this season.

 

[bennylundholm]

Yup and Stastny was pretty much signed as a placeholder for Cole anyhow so I doubt the org will have much if any issue advancing Cole ahead of him if/when he proves ready this season.

We will be a stronger team if Perfetti is in the lineup heading down the stretch. I'm sure Chevy is hoping Perfetti is ready to be contributing significant minutes down the stretch in February.
I don't think Stastny playing 3rd or 4th line and PP heading into the playoffs is out of the question.

 

[voyageur]

Again based on pomo’s preseason comments our best deployment is
CSW
Copp-PLD-Ehlers
Harkins-Lowry-Nash
Perfetti/Ves-statsny-svechnikov/Ves

stats quarterbacks PP2 with Ehlers

I don't see Vesalainen and Svetchnikov both in the starting lineup without an injury. Both guys are fighting for PP2 ice time, and there is Schmidt in the mix for that too, but for PK just Lowry, Copp, Nash are guaranteed. Harkins could get reps this year, Connor did last year, and I think Lowry-Nash, Copp-Connor would be a good tandem. But I think there will be room for another player. That's the way Toninato or Gustafsson draw into the lineup. 4th line of Ves-Stastny-Gustafsson would be a good one. Does Dubois move onto PP1, because that's a money spot for him?

 

[Imcanadianeh]

Well there is also another 50 games of him suckling last year and he's another year older.

It’s almost like he had cracked ribs hindering his performance.

 

[Adam da bomb]

We will be a stronger team if Perfetti is in the lineup heading down the stretch. I'm sure Chevy is hoping Perfetti is ready to be contributing significant minutes down the stretch in February.
I don't think Stastny playing 3rd or 4th line and PP heading into the playoffs is out of the question.

We will be a stronger team if Perfetti is ready and in the line up.

 

[BigHulkingThickV]

I swear, ya'll be sleeping on Svechnikov!!

You know this is Evgeny and not Andrei, correct?

 

[WolfHouse]

I don't see Vesalainen and Svetchnikov both in the starting lineup without an injury. Both guys are fighting for PP2 ice time, and there is Schmidt in the mix for that too, but for PK just Lowry, Copp, Nash are guaranteed. Harkins could get reps this year, Connor did last year, and I think Lowry-Nash, Copp-Connor would be a good tandem. But I think there will be room for another player. That's the way Toninato or Gustafsson draw into the lineup. 4th line of Ves-Stastny-Gustafsson would be a good one. Does Dubois move onto PP1, because that's a money spot for him?

I was thinking Copp-Lowry and Nash-harkins for PK - but I do think we start with toninato in the lineup possibly over Harkins if I know Mo

 

[WolfHouse]

Keep forgetting that Poganski is a right shot... that could bump him onto our fourth line...