Speculation: Roster Building Thread IX (2021 Offseason Thread)

[SRHRangers]

Yeah not sure why they bought out Suter.. I understand Parise, but why Suter too if they didn't have big plans for that money this year?

They choose Dumba and Greenway/Foglino to keep over Suter.

Either that, or Suter quietly wanted out and gave him his wish

 

[Levitate]

Suter-Fox
Lindgren-Trouba
Miller-Lundkvist

Why?

You break up a pairing that has been excellent and you stick two young and learning players together on the third line

 

[bobbop]

The Suter and Parise contracts were written before the recapture penalty was instituted by the NHL. At the time, they looked like good smart deals. Only five contracts are now still in force that would trigger recapture penalty. (e.g. Crosby, Weber, Carter)

 

[Lays]

Draft Fedor Svechkov, sign Ryan Suter and Nosek/Goodrow, and hope Howden gets taken in the expansion draft, and we name a captain. Would be a perfect offseason

 

[bobbop]

I’m probably beaten to the punch already but how about Suter for a bottom pairing cheap 2 year deal?

He’s been the flavor of the day for about an hour.

 

[Levitate]

The Suter and Parise contracts were written before the recapture penalty was instituted by the NHL. At the time, they looked like good smart deals. Only five contracts are now still in force that would trigger recapture penalty. (e.g. Crosby, Weber, Carter)

Yup, the idea on those was always to buy out the end years rather than have the contracts run their full course.
The cap recapture thing caused a lot of problems for teams (and lead to the Rangers buying out Richards, which was still probably the better move)

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Suter would be my top choice, but there are PLENTY of other guys available to fill the role in trades or FA so if he dont pick us we move on and get someone else, its not a big deal, but I'd def try to get him here.

 

[gravey9]

Taylor Hall is to the #1 draft pick as Mats Zuccarello is to buyouts.

 

[Machinehead]

Why?

You break up a pairing that has been excellent and you stick two young and learning players together on the third line

We have to try breaking up Lindgren and Fox at some point. The reward is too high not to. Fox will be fine and if Lindgren keeps up his level of play, that's two top pairs right there instead of one.

If it doesn't work, you can just put them back together.

 

[Cyclones21]

I am trying to project the Islanders to have a weaker roster and cap space issues and you guys keep replying with intelligence and logic. This is no fun. : )

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Yeah not sure why they bought out Suter.. I understand Parise, but why Suter too if they didn't have big plans for that money this year?

Protection spot for Dumba.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

We have to try breaking up Lindgren and Fox at some point. The reward is too high not to. Fox will be fine and if Lindgren keeps up his level of play, that's two top pairs right there instead of one.

If it doesn't work, you can just put them back together.

If Lindgren can carry a partner it makes 3 years 3M per even better of a contract than it already seems to be.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Protection spot for Dumba.

fair point, I guess they would rather go the 4-4 route than 8 skaters

 

[JohnC]

I know people would say "how can you split up Fox/Lindgren" but Fox is elite and can probably play with anyone, and I'm not denying chemistry is important in saying that

I’d be very comfortable separating Fox and Lindgren. Lindgren plays very well with Trouba and vice versa.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Would you ever entertain Ryan Johansen? I wonder how much he would cost

No

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

If Lindgren can carry a partner it makes 3 years 3M per even better of a contract than it already seems to be.

He’s been carrying around Fox for 2 years

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Suter would be perfect as the LH Veteran D we bring in, but he's going to basically choose where he goes. He'll have 20+ teams interested in him.

I bet he goes to one of the teams that are considered top contenders. These teams all seem like good landing spots:

Colorado
Vegas (as a replacement for losing Martinez?)
Islanders
Carolina
Florida
Boston
Toronto

He's going to want to win a Cup so that's going to be his top priority I'd imagine.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I'd be all over Suter. Would be a perfect fit.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Boston and Colorado, especially the latter make a ton of sense for Suter.

 

[JohnC]

Why?

You break up a pairing that has been excellent

You spread the wealth. Fox is a Norris winner and Lindgren has a proven track record of playing well with Trouba

you stick two young and learning players together on the third line

This has never happened before in the history of ever

 

[SRHRangers]

Of all the contenders it's prolly Boston that needs Suter the most.

All depends on if he wants to sign a market contract, or a league minimum deal and chase a Cup.

 

[pld459666]

And Kaprizov wants to resign in Minny after this? All that dead cap, they wont compete for years now.

How about a Laffy for Kappy swap?

Pass

 

[bleedblue94]

Of all the contenders it's prolly Boston that needs Suter the most.

All depends on if he wants to sign a market contract, or a league minimum deal and chase a Cup.

it also greatly depends where he wants to live. that was a part of why he ended up in minny at the time

 

[eco's bones]

Not interested in giving a 36 year old D a contract with significant term or money to play on our third pair. Some other team can do that if they feel like it.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

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