Movies: Rise of Skywalker [SPOILER] Edition - II

[chicagoskycam]

Yikes defenders of the TLJ throwing around the bigot word against critics of the film just makes yourself look bad tbh.

The movie was just bad, nothing to do with bigotry. Poor writing, plot, ect, ect. This one suffers from more of the same although it's not quite as bad.

 

[chicagoskycam]

If he survived ROTJ, he can surely have survived this.

I will await his return in the next sequel trilogy.

That's the thing, nobody is actually dead or gone. Rey can duplicate and teleport objects through space-time. Once anything and everything can happen all the time, specific scenes and moments no longer have meaning. When Rey was laying there at the end there was no emotion that she was not coming back. It's silly.

 

[K Fleur]

The point of this trilogy was an exercise in how much nostalgia and brand recognition can drive ticket sales vs actual quality. That is what The Force really is.


That is actually the over arcing theme of the entire Star Wars film franchise.

 

[John Price]

I agree that if you let JJ direct all 3 it would have been better. TLJ dragged Star Wars pretty down and they had to work their ass off to rebound.

The Disney Star Wars movies were okay but of course the originals are always going to be better.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

JJ hamstrung the series with how he chose to start it, so I am not convinced him directing all three movies would have been significantly better.

 

[EXTRAS]

I feel like a solid SNL skit for crossing star wars and current world politics would be the characters
Emperor Poutine
Darth Donut
Obama want quinoa, b

 

[Shockmaster]

If he survived ROTJ, he can surely have survived this.

I will await his return in the next sequel trilogy.

To think it all could have ended much sooner if Mace Windu used 2 lightsabers to defect Palpatine's Sith lightning back at him instead of only one.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

ROS had a $20.4M Christmas Eve

That is 2nd best among Disney SW films trailing only TFA ($27.4)

TLJ grossed $17.6M on Christmas Eve while Rogue One grossed $15.3M

 

[Emperoreddy]

If he survived ROTJ, he can surely have survived this.

I will await his return in the next sequel trilogy.

No one is ever really gone.

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

JJ hamstrung the series with how he chose to start it, so I am not convinced him directing all three movies would have been significantly better.

How was the series hamstrung after TFA? That’s crazy talk.

 

[Blender]

No one is ever really gone.

If the villain can just be brought back at any time at pretty much full strength, it severely cheapens the effort and weight of any victory against them. Tough to make a struggle and victory not feel hollow when you know the stakes aren't that high.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Scott Mendelson still upset I take it?

He's saying RoS is the worst SW movie and TLJ is the best. You just can't take him seriously.

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

He's saying RoS is the worst SW movie and TLJ is the best. You just can't take him seriously.

I don’t take anyone serious that doesn’t have AotC as the worst movie.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I don’t take anyone serious that doesn’t have AotC as the worst movie.

Eh, it's sort of the other end of Empire for me. Those 2 are the best and worst for about 90% of people, I can see arguments for others being best or worst. His takes on TLJ and RoS are either just bad or trolling for clicks.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

He seems to despise all the Disney films outside of TLJ

TLJ
ESB
ROS
ANH
ROTJ
RO
TPM
TFA
AOTC
ROS

Yeah I cant take anyone seriously that has list like this

In no way is TFA worse then the f***ing Phanton Menace

AOTC and TPM are absolutely the worst SW to me and anyone who ranks either higher then new films is mind boggling

Honestly his comparing ROS to Batman and Robin is laughable

 

[Caeldan]

I don’t take anyone serious that doesn’t have AotC as the worst movie.

Well, TPM is the worst movie so there is that.

 

[bleedblue1223]

TPM really isn't bad, just Jar Jar. It gets too much hate IMO.

 

[Blender]

I don’t take anyone serious that doesn’t have AotC as the worst movie.

AOTC is unwatchable trash, easily the worst movie. I can at least watch TPM and find some redeeming qualities in it.

 

[Blender]

TPM really isn't that bad, just Jar Jar. It gets too much hate IMO.

Jar Jar is awful, the casting for Anakin was terrible and that kid gives an awful performance. Natalie Portman, who is a very good actor, gives a pretty bad performance for most of the movie. Some scenes drag on far too much as well.

The core story is fine, some good action pieces, and Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor carry the movie.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I would add that Jar Jar's people are awful as well and the laughable battle between them and Droids is terrible to watch

Again the fact Lucas makes so much of films CGI really is hard to watch now 20 years later as most of it has not aged well

The positives of film are Neeson , Darth Maul and soundtrack

McGregor is a bit meh in that film but that is likely result of awful dialogue. His performance is much improved in episode II and great in episode III

 

[Tawnos]

The CGI was groundbreaking at the time, which is a thing.

I wonder if they’ve thought about updating it, but have run into the same problem as the Toy Story remaster.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Sure it was at time but George seemed giddy to abandon alot of practical effects and sets in favor of massive amounts of green screen , cgi , etc

 

[Blender]

The CGI was groundbreaking at the time, which is a thing.

I wonder if they’ve thought about updating it, but have run into the same problem as the Toy Story remaster.

It was groundbreaking at the time, Lucas was always really good at introducing new technology. Unfortunately every time there is a technology leap like that, often times people greatly overuse it just because they can. It rarely results in the best end product.

 

[Garo]

The Phantom Menace is beyond bad, only highlight is the cool lightsaber duel at the end - which is tried really hard to be completely dragged by three stupidly boring battles - but even then that duel is just... cool, there's nothing really needed about it and just the whole movie in general. AOTC also suffers from being extremely unneeded and having next to nothing of interest beyond John Williams again, but it's somehow a more competently made movie in structure. ROTS... has a superb novelization so I haven't found a reason to watch that movie in forever rofl but it's probably the only movie that comes close to ROS of the three realistically.

ESB - TLJ - ROTJ - ANH - TFA - ROS/ROTS - AOTC - TPM for me I guess, ANH is far more innovative and "consistent" but ROTJ is a movie where I can ignore a ton of flaws because of how flawless the resolution to the main interesting thing is delivered. A bit similar to how I feel about TLJ in regards to Kylo / Rey / Luke having multiple of my favourite moments of the nine films, except I find the other stuff surrounding that film watchable too so bop

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Just saw it.

Not a popular opinion reading through this thread, but my first impression is that it was fine.

full disclosure, I think TLJ is trash, and I’m glad this movie tried to distance itself from that.

I probably have to let in marinate for a while, but first impression is more positive than negative.