Red Wings at the deadline

[BinCookin]

what would you guys think about this:



Stephen Weiss



Cody Franson

 

[Squirrel in the Hole]

Following the pattern of last year, I predict Petry for Pookie and a defensive prospect not named Kindl (Sproul, maybe Smith, Marchenko makes no sense, RHD, but stranger things have happened)

 

[Electric Eric]

what would you guys think about this:



Stephen Weiss



Cody Franson

I'd be OK with it but I'm fairly certain the Leafs would say no.

 

[Squirrel in the Hole]

what would you guys think about this:



Stephen Weiss



Cody Franson

If Weiss waves his NMC, hell yes

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

what would you guys think about this:



Stephen Weiss



Cody Franson

There's no way the Leafs would ever do this, and they could probably still get a decent package for Franson.

 

[silkyjohnson50]

what would you guys think about this:



Stephen Weiss



Cody Franson

The same way I'd feel about Andersson for Petry or Franzen for Weber.

 

[Frk It]

Green, Martin, Franson, Ehrhoff, Boychuk, Petry all scheduled to hit free agency.

I think that Franson and Boychuk probably will extend and not make it. Have to figure one of Ehrhoff or Martin has a good chance of hitting free agency? Martin can play the right side, that could be a really nice addition. Green would be ideal, I'd be so pumped if we landed him.

 

[mindfly]

Is the need for RHD's just to become more unpredictable during the PP? (which is already among the top in the NHL) and get faster outlet passes in the own zone along the boards etc? Maybe get better/faster rythm when putting pressure in the O-zone?

What are the main reasons, and the biggest reason? Is it more important with getting a RHD than getting a LHD? (imagine the scenario that the LHD would be better than the RHD player they could get)

 

[TCNorthstars]

Eh like I said, it's a pipedream. Like mentioned above the Jets are in a Playoff spot and will likely not move him. Not to mention basing on reactions we would need to add. I just want Bogo in a Wings sweater

But why do you want him in a Wings sweater?

 

[Frk It]

Listened to TSN Insider and they said new Coyotes owner looking to blow team up and re-build. Said they are looking to move Vermette, Yandle, Michalek. Wonder if we could get Michalek for cheap since he's been hurt a lot lately.

They also said Winnipeg is looking to move a defenseman for a 3rd line winger (RW), though they did not say who. You guys want Weiss??????

 

[Classicnamesup]

I'd be nervous about Michalek. He spent a short time out of PHX and was not good, only wants to play there and might not perform elsewhere.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

jurco, smith and a 2016 1st for yandle?

would that do it?
not be enough?
be too much?

 

[TatarTangle]

jurco, smith and a 2016 1st for yandle?

would that do it?
not be enough?
be too much?

Not enough. Smith and the 2016 1st (compared to this years) don't have a lot of trade value.

 

[Actual Thought*]

Not enough. Smith and the 2016 1st (compared to this years) don't have a lot of trade value.

I think you underestimate Smith and his potential ceiling. That said I don't think he will be traded.

 

[TatarTangle]

I think you underestimate Smith and his potential ceiling. That said I don't think he will be traded.

Says the guy that thinks DeKeyser is going to be better than Kronwall? I'm very interested to see what you have to say about Smith's potential ceiling. Because at 160 NHL games that ceiling is getting shorter. And shorter. And shorter.

 

[Vladdy84]

Not enough. Smith and the 2016 1st (compared to this years) don't have a lot of trade value.

Smith has a lot of trade value and the Wings would be foolish to trade him now IMO. Wait till the offseason if they want to move him.

 

[TatarTangle]

Smith has a lot of trade value and the Wings would be foolish to trade him now IMO. Wait till the offseason if they want to move him.

...he'd be lucky to get a 1st at the deadline this year

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

i think smith has decent trade value as part of a larger deal

 

[TatarTangle]

i think smith has decent trade value as part of a larger deal

Decent? Yes, he does have decent trade value.

But a lot? Take off the glasses... (not directed at you)

 

[Actual Thought*]

Says the guy that thinks DeKeyser is going to be better than Kronwall? I'm very interested to see what you have to say about Smith's potential ceiling. Because at 160 NHL games that ceiling is getting shorter. And shorter. And shorter.

Your condecension is noted. However so is your player assessment.

 

[Bench]

I don't think Smith has any value. Every team has a guy like him. He's an "offensive" defender, age 25 (almost 26), with 7 points. Look around, you can't swing a cat without finding guys like him.

 

[Winger98]

I don't think Smith has any value. Every team has a guy like him. He's an "offensive" defender, age 25 (almost 26), with 7 points. Look around, you can't swing a cat without finding guys like him.

that depends entirely on the size of the cat. Point noted, though. His biggest assets are that he's cheap and still has an RFA year left at the end of this deal. I can see that being appealing to a team like Phoenix.

 

[BSHH]

jurco, smith and a 2016 1st for yandle?

would that do it?
not be enough?
be too much?

Arizona will want more, considering Yandle as their future captain, and Detroit better passes as well. While I deem Smith expendable, I'd hate Detroit to give up their first round pick and Jurco, who has the potential to be valuable on any given line. Yandle is a good, perhaps even very good player, but he will be an UFA next year and other good defencemen will be available for similar salaries this summer. Neither are the Red Wings' defence and PP units not that bad nor is Yandle that good to warrant such a sacrifice.

Gruß,
BSHH

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Arizona will want more, considering Yandle as their future captain, and Detroit better passes as well. While I deem Smith expendable, I'd hate Detroit to give up their first round pick and Jurco, who has the potential to be valuable on any given line. Yandle is a good, perhaps even very good player, but he will be an UFA next year and other good defencemen will be available for similar salaries this summer. Neither are the Red Wings' defence and PP units not that bad nor is Yandle that good to warrant such a sacrifice.

Gruß,
BSHH

I 100% disagree with the notion that Dman as good or better than Yandle will ever become available consistently in free agency

At absolute best the only comparable would be Mike Green and as he being the best of the group by a long shot will get a 7 year deal at 7 million from any one of a number of teams this summer.

If we want a true puck moving young dman who can grow with this franchise for years and years to come it has to come via trade or through the draft

I think that offer is spot on with the values shown in the Kesler, Spezza or Ryan trades and the NHL is so very predictable. If the Yotes truly enter a full rebuild this is the "kind" of offer they will be seeking

 

[detredWINgs]

Some fatalistic Sharks fans are talking about full-on rebuilding and mention Burns as a target. I doubt those thoughts are shared by SJ Brass but it'd be interesting if true.
Wonder how hard Babs would campaign for bringing in Burns considering his comments when SJ acquired him.

Also I haven't seen much speculation about Babs heading to San Jose. I could definitely see a coaching position opening up there and Babs having interest.