Raw/SD/NXT/PPV Spoilers - Part 4

[Falco Lombardi]

Riddle cuts a terrible promo. He will be another Zack Ryder at best. I watch a lot of MMA and no one cares about him. He basically got fired from the UFC for smoking weed and turned to wrestling, he won't have a bunch of fans following him.

Remember this post.

Another Zack Ryder at best.

 

[Cor]

Has Zack Ryder even been NXT Champion? Because I feel like Riddle will be in the picture fairly quickly.

Riddle has been outspoken about wanting to face Brock, and I wouldn't be surprised if Vince is clamoring over doing it.

 

[GKJ]

I'd be surprised if Vince knew who Matt Riddle even is

 

[ColePens]

Remember this post.

Another Zack Ryder at best.

Why? People say idiotic things all the time and can just run away from it online. Nobody actually has to stand up for the insane things they say.

That's why I try never to state definitives, because nothing is ever definite. It's just an opinion and other opinions should be equally respected. But noooooo. Anyone can say anything online and just run away when it's not true.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Has Zack Ryder even been NXT Champion? Because I feel like Riddle will be in the picture fairly quickly.

Riddle has been outspoken about wanting to face Brock, and I wouldn't be surprised if Vince is clamoring over doing it.

NXT wasn't a thing when Ryder was coming up - he did developmental in Deep South and OVW. He was a 2-time tag team champion in Deep South as part of The Major Brothers with Bryan Majors (now Curt Hawkins) and they were also tag champs in OVW. No singles championships in developmental though.

 

[GKJ]

Ryder did come back to NXT to work with Mojo Rawley.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

If this dude from barstool said tonight’s main event will make headlines or whatever he said I can’t see this ending in interference from the Raw brand. I just can’t.

 

[GKJ]

If this dude from barstool said tonight’s main event will make headlines or whatever he said I can’t see this ending in interference from the Raw brand. I just can’t.

It can the same way they did on Raw last year

 

[M.C.G. 31]

It can the same way they did on Raw last year

Is that the one where Kurt Angle had the walkie talkie cause I have no recollection of what happened last year

 

[GKJ]

Is that the one where Kurt Angle had the walkie talkie cause I have no recollection of what happened last year

Yeah, the Bar won the titles from Dean and Seth in a match everyone forgot was going on.

Had nothing from Raw tonight though.

 

[Maffew]

Anybody read the NXT taping results? They taped two weeks of post-WarGames shows on a San Jose house show this past Thursday.

Some interesting results there:

- Dream beating Gargano
- Black losing to Ciampa in a title rematch (Gargano interference)
- Dream running in and beating down Ciampa and holding up the title
- The 3rd and 4th horsewoman beating Dakota Kai and Kairi in a tag match was a surprise too
- Keith Lee eating his first TV loss

On a funny note: Keith Lee's last match before joining NXT was losing to Mia Yim via pinfall in a singles match LOL

Now this to me says they're going to have a Black/Gargano/Ciampa/Dream combo feud for awhile before anyone gets called up. If any one of these guys gets called up, someone else doesn't have a dance partner unless they do a three-way feud with Gargano, Ciampa, and Dream/Black, so I'm only seeing Dream or Black getting the call-up, if anyone.

Great thing about WarGames is that it didn't settling anything for anyone, but gave us a ton of great matches and allowed all the feuds to continue.

 

[GKJ]

If they did a 4-way that would be totally insane

 

[Falco Lombardi]

4 way would be insane.

But I also want a tag match with Dream and Black together.

The main event of Mania Takeover should be Black (c) vs Dream

 

[Cor]

Ciampa vs Gargano vs Black vs Dream would tear the house down. So much storytelling, so much spot potential.... I love it

 

[GKJ]

I think that 4-way would work as your evil mini-DIY reunion. They would have to work together in order to make it about themselves.

Folks,

 

[The Gongshow]

Next TakeOver could be pretty solid

Dream/Ciampa/Gargano/Black
War Raiders/UE
Dunne/Ricochet title for title
6 Woman Tag
Riddle/Ohno

 

[xtra]

As we were discussing earlier of whom isn’t ready to call up supposedly Lars Sullivan is getting vignettes tonight.

He’s got potential hut needs more time

 

[Paris in Flames]

As we were discussing earlier of whom isn’t ready to call up supposedly Lars Sullivan is getting vignettes tonight.

He’s got potential hut needs more time

Realistically I don't know if there's much more Lars can learn or develop.

Not to say he's fantastic I just think it might be likely that he's hit his personal ceiling.

 

[Cor]

Realistically I don't know if there's much more Lars can learn or develop.

Not to say he's fantastic I just think it might be likely that he's hit his personal ceiling.

I would need someone to sell me on Lars.

I just have no interest in the guy. Zero.

 

[GKJ]

Lars' biggest issue is that for a monster he's only 6'3," but he looks bigger than he is, and Vince still knows how to book monsters. If he wants him to be as over as Strowman, he can talk better than him.

 

[Jussi]

Lars' biggest issue is that for a monster he's only 6'3," but he looks bigger than he is, and Vince still knows how to book monsters. If he wants him to be as over as Strowman, he can talk better than him.

From what I saw of him at NXT, he's also surprisingly athletic for a guy that size. He might have some really impressive moves in store.

 

[Paris in Flames]

I don't love Lars either but I did think his title match with Black was better than I was expecting. By a fair bit.

Was really crediting Black this whole time though.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I rather Lars then someone awesome who would get ruined on the main roster.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Realistically I don't know if there's much more Lars can learn or develop.

Not to say he's fantastic I just think it might be likely that he's hit his personal ceiling.

I agree with this. He is what he is.

I don’t see who I’d feud him with on the main roster either asidr from Braun and that feels like a huge step down for Braun.

 

[Cor]

He’s just going to be a big guy that smaller guys beat to help their push honestly.

Which is fine. Big Show was that for a while, which is why he turned so much, to match who they needed to put over