Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 5.12.20)

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The reason behind K'Andre's dominance at the bottom line in these perspectives is his ability to play a high defensive game. And I think its important to acknowledge that because it goes both ways.

For a long time, up until the later parts of the 90's, you kind of played a defensive game that could be described as pressure with support. I.e. the Ds stepped up while they had support from forwards skating hard to be able to cover behind the D after he had stepped up on his player. Go back to 1995 or even 2005 and every other D in the NHL didn't have "gap control" in their tool box. A Garnet Excelby didn't have an underwhelming gap control, he never tried to maintain an appropriate gap at all. Instead those D's backed down without maintaining a gap, and the forwards steered the puck out towards the boards, and the Ds stepped up on them and took the body.

But after 05' the scale tipped and skilled forwards was able to zig-zag through the pressure in the neutral zone with the crackdown on slashing, hooking and those type of plays. Michael Nylander and co killed those type of Ds.

That gave birth to the gap control strategy. You couldn't risk stepping up on Michael Nylander and co in the neutral zone, so you started to skate with them instead. Gap control is really about not giving the forward enough space to fire the puck cleanly off the rush while back down with him. Skating forward is faster than skating backwards so the D must on one side "cheat" enough to get a head start, and on the other side time the forward so that he is close enough when you come into shooting range.

In the way the game is played today, when every D more or less constantly is skating into the lap of their goalies surrounding the defensive blue-line -- having Ds that can step up high and win puck battles not deep in your own end, but in the neutral zone, is a great weapon. Teams aren't prepared for it, and is instantly a great position to turn the play from. In the NHL Drew Doughty has been the best at playing a high defense AINEC. His timing and lateral movement makes him almost unique, and being able to create offense of his high defense was instrumental to all LAK's Cup wins. They could afford to be more conservative in many areas than the competition, but still get great scoring chances since Doughty could eat up forwards at the red-line instead of backing down into the lap of his goalie and then head into the corner to chase a rebound.

K'Andree Miller is really good at stepping up high in those situations too, and can be downright dominant in games against his peers due to it. But I think that many fail to put into context Miller getting beaten defensively in those situations, which of course will happen form time to time, and like a D getting beaten cleanly trying to maintain a gap control while skating into the lap of his goalie. First of all, the last mentioned play is designed to be unfailable if the D can skate well enough, the first mentioned is tremendously hard to make. 50/50 at best. Second of all, when a D steps up, its the forwards job to cover behind him. A forward backchecking that is allowed to skate back in a straight lane should just be able to beat an attacking forward that is heading up ice but have to skate around a K'Andre Miller coming at him. I've several times seen Miller get walked in those situation and people go OMG Miller was beaten cleanly, while the support he got from the players was a lot more questionable than his play. Thirdly, its of course essential for a D to value when to make those plays, and getting the right 'most of the time' is just about anything you can ask of a young D.

Lastly, and sorry for the long post, I also think it is essential to be patient with Miller to afford him to take this game with him to the NHL level. If we had rushed him he would have had to cut those elements from his game and solely base his defense on backing down into the lap of the goalie, just to survive. I want him over mature when he hits the ice in the AHL.

This is Brendan Smith's primary skill as a defenceman and maybe the primary reason he has seen his career derailed as a member of the NYR.

Allegedly Lindy Ruff (and/or David Quinn) does not want his defencemen doing this at all. According to the numbers, Smith has still been doing it (and being the only Ranger defenceman doing it) and doing it successfully - but I can see him getting tons of flak from the staff for the times he does get burned since you have explicit instructions from the coach not to ever get burned like that.

The NY Rangers defense system is to give up the blue line, and it's by design

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This is Brendan Smith's primary skill as a defenceman and maybe the primary reason he has seen his career derailed as a member of the NYR.

Allegedly Lindy Ruff (and/or David Quinn) does not want his defencemen doing this at all. According to the numbers, Smith has still been doing it (and being the only Ranger defenceman doing it) and doing it successfully - but I can see him getting tons of flak from the staff for the times he does get burned since you have explicit instructions from the coach not to ever get burned like that.

The NY Rangers defense system is to give up the blue line, and it's by design

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GREAT stuff.

I've been saying this for a while. Its certainly by design and I've commented on it at the trade board at times. Many are comparing player's ability to defend against entries by looking at stats, and maybe that is possible looking at relative numbers within a team or something, but its certainly not possible to compare like Skjei here in NY with a D on a team that by design have their Ds step up more.

Ultimately its really an issue how you handle your forwards. A defender cannot step up if it is a 2 on 2 but it is possible if its a 3 on 3 (in essence a 2 on 2 with forward back-checking along with an attacker joining the rush).

I've never played defense but this is basically the most fundamental communication between defenders, you must be on board if you are handling a play like its 2 on 2 or if you have support from a forward. When the forward support is there you can step up, when its not you must back down.
 
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Prob not next year.
He has another contract year, although he could get out of it, there is a transfer agreement.
Wouldn't mind if NYR could do like Henriksson and give him the time at Traverse City.
They could sign him for next season, but then loan him back to Finland (as with Reunanen) with or without TC
So i dont expect him in Hartford til fall'21. Tho i will be glad to be wrong, if NYR decide thats best.
 

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Rough game for Lindbom. He relieved Wallin that started after 3-0 pretty early in the first and the game ended 9-3.
 

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Sjalin had two assists, which were his first point in either Allsvenskan or the SHL this year.

Lindbum gave up six goals on 25 shots. He didn't even get the loss as he came in in "relief" of Wallin who stopped just 7/10.
 

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Sjalin had two assists, which were his first point in either Allsvenskan or the SHL this year.

Lindbum gave up six goals on 25 shots. He didn't even get the loss as he came in in "relief" of Wallin who stopped just 7/10.
Mora is a bad team, yet a mid table 2nd division team that got smoked by a team that will have to fight to stay up.

Easy to put it on the team(and I’ve seen it where it’s easy to do so with Mora) but that’s just zero battle.
 

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NEW YORK RANGERS PROSPECT INFORMATION
$ PLAYER SIGNED TO NHL CONTRACT | $ SIGNED TO AHL CONTRACT
C TEAM CAPTAIN - A ALTERNATE CAPTAIN

PLAYER CURRENTLY INJURED/UNABLE TO PLAY
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Gross, Nico A
DL01/26/20006'2" 1794191423+55272Oshawa Generals/OHLDrafted R4 #101 2018
3101-127Switzerland U20/International
22 Robertson, Matthew $ AD L 03/09/2001 6'4" 19848112435-446141Edmonton Oil Kings/WHLDrafted R2 #49 2019
83
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Skinner, Hunter
D R 04/29/2001 6'2" 1875052530+2643107London Knights/OHLDrafted R4 #112 2019
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27 Barron, Morgan CFLJr.12/02/19986'3" 21423111425+142283Cornell Big Red/ECACDrafted R6 #174 2017
9
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Ciccolini, Eric
RW R Fr.01/14/20016'0"1702611011-4628Michigan Wolverines/Big TenDrafted R7 #205 2019
19
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Hughes, Riley
RW RFr.06/27/20006'2" 17525112-72120Northeastern Huskies/Hockey East Drafted R7 #216 2018
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Jones, Zac
D L Fr. 10/18/2000 5'10" 1762731518+112268UMass Minutemen/Hockey EastDrafted R3 #68 2019
9145-2224United States U20/International
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Kjellberg, Simon
D L Fr. 02/17/2000 6'3" 190264610-12447RPI Engineers/ECAC Drafted R6 #163 2018
3000-240Sweden U20/International
19 Miller, K'Andre D L So.01/21/20006'4" 205287815-82068Wisconsin Badgers/Big TenDrafted R1 #22 2018
10145E320United States U20/International
2 Nanne, Tyler CD/FRSr.03/17/19965'11" 185273912+6252Minnesota Golden Gophers/Big TenDrafted R5 #142 2014
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33 Wall, Tyler GLSr.01/14/19986'3"2152515552.09.9322UMass-Lowell River Hawks/Hockey EastDrafted R6 #174 2016
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Aaltonen, Leevi
FL 01/24/2001 5'9" 16834156-116--KalPa/LiigaDrafted R5 #130 2019
3224+20-- IPK/Mestis
1000-20--KalPa U20/Nuorten SM-liiga
5134+1215Finland U20/International
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Edström, Adam
FL 10/12/2000 6'5" 20435347-41435Rögle BK/SHLDrafted R6 #161 2019
3101+224Sweden U20/International
21 Henriksson, KarlC L 02/05/2001 5'9" 1746011-103Frölunda HC/SHLDrafted R2 #58 2019
20 11+10 1Frölunda HC/Champions League
15 0 1 1 -3 10 7 Södertälje SK/HockeyAllsvenskan
4 0 7 7 +4 2 6 Frölunda HC J20/J20 SuperElit Top 10
17 5 18 23 +13 6 33 Frölunda HC J20/J20 SuperElit
15145E29Sweden U20/International
27 Lundkvist, NilsD R 07/27/2000 5'11"1743361824+172466Luleå HF/SHL Drafted R1 #28 2018
122911+4623Luleå HF/Champions League
3011+321Sweden/International
11189+4417Sweden U20/International
48 Pajuniemi, Lauri RW R 09/12/1999 6'0"18342231235-66--HC TPS/Liiga Drafted R5 #132 2018
4 1 1 2 -1 6 -- HC TPS/Spengler Cup
2000-100Finland/International
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Ragnarsson, Jacob
D L 09/23/1999 6'0"17623189+73314Timrå IK/HockeyAllsvenskanDrafted R3 #70 2018
10 0 0 E 0 0 Rögle BK/SHL
11 Reunanen, Tarmo $ EACDL03/01/19986'0"1884021113+826--Rauman Lukko/LiigaDrafted R4 #98 2016
20 0 0 +1 0 0 Finland/International
51 Själin, Calle LOANDL09/02/19996'1" 17916022-7428VIK Västerås HK/HockeyAllsvenskanDrafted R5 #145 2017
13 0 0 0 -10 2 8 Leksands IF/SHL
3011 +10 3Leksands IF/Škoda Trophy
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Lindbom, Olof
G L 07/23/2000 6'2" 183166803.01.8930Mora IK/HockeyAllsvenskanDrafted R2 #39 2018
21 10 2.54.9170 Mora IK/SCA-Cupen
1 0 1 0 5.19 .833 0 Mora IK J20/J20 SuperElit Fortsättnings
10104.50.8700Sweden U20/International
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14 Crawley, Brandon $DL02/02/19976'1"205Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLDrafted R4 #123 2017
38 2 10 12 -3 36 54 Maine Mariners/ECHL
20 Day, Sean $ D L 01/09/1998 6'2"227315914+72562Maine Mariners/ECHLDrafted R3 #81 2016
16 1 3 4 -1 13 21 Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL
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Elmer, Jake $
RW R 12/31/1998 6'1"1901000E20Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLSigned as UDFA 2019
32121123+42670Maine Mariners/ECHL
37 Fontaine, Gabriel $ FL04/30/19976'1"20313123+2425Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLDrafted R6 #171 2016
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Fox, Adam $
D R 02/17/1998 5'11"1815562329+1220100New York Rangers/NHLTrade with CAR 2019
26 Gettinger, Tim $LW L 04/14/1998 6'6"21844111021+61285Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLDrafted R5 #141 2016
2011+103New York Rangers/NHL
11 Gropp, Ryan $ LWL09/16/19966'3"18724358+3425Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLDrafted R2 #41 2015
10347+4624Maine Mariners/ECHL
25 Hájek, Libor $ D L 02/04/1998 6'2"20310022-41019Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLTrade with TBL 2018
28 0 5 5 -4 12 23 New York Rangers/NHL
24 Kakko, Kaapo $RW L 02/13/2001 6'3" 1995181119-191486New York Rangers/NHLDrafted R1 #2 2019
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Keane, Joey $
D R 07/02/1999 6'0"1874782028-32862Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLDrafted R3 #88 2018
91
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Kravtsov, Vitali $
RW L 12/23/1999 6'3"189264610+1240Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLDrafted R1 #9 2018
11213-4217Traktor Chelyabinsk/KHL
3022E08Chelmet Chelyabinsk/VHL
19 Leedahl, Dawson $ LWL03/19/19966'2"2002000-202Maine Mariners/ECHLSigned as UDFA 2017
95 Lettieri, Vinni $FR02/06/19955'11"18549211839-124153Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLSigned as UDFA 2017
55 Lindgren, Ryan $D L 02/11/1998 6'0"191451910+83732New York Rangers/NHLTrade with BOS 2018
9 1 1 2 +8 6 8 Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL
13 Newell, Patrick $FL 01/18/1996 5'10"170446511E258Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLSigned as UDFA 2019
24 Raddysh, Darren $DR 02/28/19966'1"2004961622+233177Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLTrade with CHI 2019
7 Ronning, Ty $ RW R 10/20/1997 5'9"17810000-1412Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLDrafted R7 #201 2016
28111324+62077Maine Mariners/ECHL
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Rykov, Yegor $
D L 04/14/1997 6'2" 210242810-8621Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLTrade with NJD 2018
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35 Húska, Adam $ GL 05/12/19976'4"2182310653.16.8920Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLDrafted R7 #184 2015
21101.53.9580Maine Mariners/ECHL
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Shesterkin, Igor $
G L 12/30/19956'2"18276102.18.9410New York Rangers/NHLDrafted R4 #118 2014
25174 3 1.90.9343 Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL
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Dmowski, Ryan $
LWL03/18/19976'0"21818213E035Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLSigned as UDFA 2019
12347+21430Maine Mariners/ECHL
8 Jones, Nick $FR06/02/19965'11"189486915-61648Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLSigned as UDFA 2019
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Not a lot of pleasant surprises besides maybe Pajuniemi, Wall, and Barron. Our drafting staff/strategies need to be improved.
 

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Reunanen, Shesty, Lundkvist, Miller, and Zac Jones have all improved their stock since they were drafted as well.

I am not really counting Shesty and Lundkvist, obviously they have been good. Lundkvist was a smallish Dman taken in the 1st round, his offensive production is justifying him being taken in the 1st, but yes it is a bit surprisingly good although his ppg is starting to drop in the 2nd half.

Reunanan and Miller are having worse seasons this season than prior and Reunanen wasn't able to stick in AHL. Jones was a high 3rd rounder, his performance is about in line with what was expected of him.
 

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I am not really counting Shesty and Lundkvist, obviously they have been good. Lundkvist was a smallish Dman taken in the 1st round, his offensive production is justifying him being taken in the 1st, but yes it is a bit surprisingly good although his ppg is starting to drop in the 2nd half.

His P/GP has gone from .75 to .72. Technically that's a drop but I wouldn't really say it's a drop relevant enough to call it that. It fluctuates between .7 and .8
 

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I am not really counting Shesty and Lundkvist, obviously they have been good. Lundkvist was a smallish Dman taken in the 1st round, his offensive production is justifying him being taken in the 1st, but yes it is a bit surprisingly good although his ppg is starting to drop in the 2nd half.

Reunanan and Miller are having worse seasons this season than prior and Reunanen wasn't able to stick in AHL. Jones was a high 3rd rounder, his performance is about in line with what was expected of him.
Jones is having a great year and played a big role on his WJC team. Not sure you'd expect any of what he's doing out of a 3rd.
 

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Even if you just want to look at later picks, a guy like Hunter Skinner has put himself on the map. He has had some dominant games and has an intriguing blend of size and skill. He's putting it together. Ciccolini is having a nice Freshman season, particularly for a guy coming out of Junior A into the Big Ten. Even Kjellberg who looked like a turd on skates in the USHL last year is having a good first year. Went from a nothing to something at least worth following.

Edstrom was expected to be in the J20 this year, and not only made the SHL team but forced his way from fourth line and occasional spare to the third line where he's actually contributing. Aaltonen had a rough start but has picked it up since his Mestis spell. He's so skilled, just really raw.

There's plenty to be optimistic about. The Athletic just said we had the fourth-best system despite not considering the guys in the pros. I know with Andersson and to an extent Kravtsov, it kind of feels like things are disappointing, but beyond them I am not really disappointed in anything. Henriksson, I wanted to see more production from him, but his play apparently exceeds his production and now he's won a spot back in the SHL, playing ahead of Lucas Raymond, even. And Miller, in, a vacuum, seems like he's having a down year, but it's impossible to evaluate his season without the context of his dreadful team that's probably going to get Granato fired.

I think we're doing really well.
 
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