Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 5.12.20)

[nyr2k2]

Nothing for Sjalin.

Nothing for Ragnarsson.

Lindbum didn't play.

 

[TheWhiskeyThief]

Nothing for Sjalin.

Nothing for Ragnarsson.

Lindbum didn't play.

Lindbom got beat out by a guy who had an .840 sv% that night

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Karl Henriksson with 3 assists today

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Karl Henriksson with 3 assists today

In the SHL? Very impressive.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

In the SHL? Very impressive.

Sorry, no. SuperElit.

SHL games aren't this early. Karl Henriksson played with the u20 team today with 2 players back from injury. Frölunda lost 5-4 in a shootout against Luleå. Henriksson now has 33 points in 24 games in SuperElit

 

[Vitto79]

So Is it safe to say unless Hajek impresses in the A hes surpassed by Rykov

Then next year Reunanen , Robertson , maybe Miller in the AHL

Not counting RD

 

[Vitto79]

Barron with an early PP blast from the right circle.

Safe to say he’s the top F prospect not in the AHL? Kravtsov still 1

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Safe to say he’s the top F prospect not in the AHL? Kravtsov still 1

It's between him and Pajuniemi. It's close

 

[kovazub94]

It's between him and Pajuniemi. It's close

Yup, and if both were to make it to the NHL (odds against, of course), they could be linemates as Paju and Barron’s games are kind of complimentary.

 

[I Eat Crow]

It would be so huge for this team moving forward if Pajuniemi can become a bottom six NHL forward.

 

[kovazub94]

In two years:

Kakko - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Panarin - Chytil - Strome
Pajuniemi - Barron* - Kravtsov
Lemieux - Henriksson - Howden

*I know - he’s a wing but this is a fantasy

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

It would be so huge for this team moving forward if Pajuniemi can become a bottom six NHL forward.

I dunno. I feel like an undersized scorer like him either translates to the top six here, or he heads back home...

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

It would be so huge for this team moving forward if Pajuniemi can become a bottom six NHL forward.

I see a lot of Benoit Pouliot in Lauri Pajuniemi

 

[cwede]

Ciccolini season over, shoulder surgery

2019 Draft Pick Eric Ciccolini Out for Season With Shoulder Injury

 

[TheWhiskeyThief]

I dunno. I feel like an undersized scorer like him either translates to the top six here, or he heads back home...

It can’t be emphasized enough how poor Liiga actually is right now. Pajuniemi is scoring at a rate .10 lower than Meskanen before he hit Hartford. Obviously aging curves make a difference, but not that much.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

It can’t be emphasized enough how poor Liiga actually is right now. Pajuniemi is scoring at a rate .10 lower than Meskanen before he hit Hartford. Obviously aging curves make a difference, but not that much.

20 vs 22 is a significant difference in a pro league

 

[nyr2k2]

Safe to say he’s the top F prospect not in the AHL? Kravtsov still 1

Speaking just on talent, I think Kravtsov is clearly in a tier of his own. Then you probably have Barron, followed by a tier with Pajuniemi and maybe a Henriksson.

 

[cheech70]

Cherepanov would have been the missing piece in 2014.

Like Kovalev

 

[kovazub94]

Speaking just on talent, I think Kravtsov is clearly in a tier of his own. Then you probably have Barron, followed by a tier with Pajuniemi and maybe a Henriksson.

I’m with @Amazing Kreiderman in that I’d put Barron and Pajuniemi in the same tier and Henriksson (partly explainable due to his younger age and needing to show more development) just a bit lower.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I’m with @Amazing Kreiderman in that I’d put Barron and Pajuniemi in the same tier and Henriksson (partly explainable due to his younger age and needing to show more development) just a bit lower.

Barron to me seems the more complete player while Pajuniemi is that offense-minded winger. Both have 3rd line upside and it's crazy how much they remind me of the 2013-14 versions of Derick Brassard and Benoit Pouliot. If they play together, I will have flashbacks haha.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Ciccolini season over, shoulder surgery

2019 Draft Pick Eric Ciccolini Out for Season With Shoulder Injury

That sucks, he was having a pretty good rookie year considering he was a 7th round pick. Hopefully he can continue this development next season

 

[nyr2k2]

I am thrilled Pajuniemi is having a great season, but I'm kind of skeptical at this point. This isn't a situation like Reunanen, a once highly-touted prospect who fell due to injuries, couldn't stay healthy, couldn't find regular minutes, etc. There was nothing about Pajuniemi to suggest this type of season was something he was capable of. Of course guys can exceed expectation and seemingly come out of nowhere (you could argue the same for Barron), but this whole season with Pajuniemi just seems... anomalous.

Pajuniemi is reliant on time and space to score. We know how limited those things are in the NHL. So many guys with that profile--"Needs to find time and space to get off his good shot"--fail miserably. The margins are razor thin. Pajuniemi doesn't play an awesome 200-foot game. He doesn't kill penalties. He's not going to win the battles in the corner. He's either going to score or he's not going to play, IMO. Watching him, I always considered him more of a creative puck distributor than a scorer. To this point it hasn't really materialized, and even this year his assist totals are just okay given his role and TOI.

Barron, on the other hand, his game is so suited for the NHL. And even if he can't figure out how to score (he's big and strong enough that he shouldn't have too much of a problem translating the offense), the rest of his game still looks like a regular NHL player. He's also someone who came out of nowhere, but after putting himself on the map as a Freshman, he now has two other excellent seasons under his belt.

Barron seems like a safer projection, but also one who does more things in general. I'm not sure how "real" Pajuniemi is at this point. I hope he is and hope he makes it, but again, I have some healthy skepticism. I need to see more.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I am thrilled Pajuniemi is having a great season, but I'm kind of skeptical at this point. This isn't a situation like Reunanen, a once highly-touted prospect who fell due to injuries, couldn't stay healthy, couldn't find regular minutes, etc. There was nothing about Pajuniemi to suggest this type of season was something he was capable of. Of course guys can exceed expectation and seemingly come out of nowhere (you could argue the same for Barron), but this whole season with Pajuniemi just seems... anomalous.

Pajuniemi is reliant on time and space to score. We know how limited those things are in the NHL. So many guys with that profile--"Needs to find time and space to get off his good shot"--fail miserably. The margins are razor thin. Pajuniemi doesn't play an awesome 200-foot game. He doesn't kill penalties. He's not going to win the battles in the corner. He's either going to score or he's not going to play, IMO. Watching him, I always considered him more of a creative puck distributor than a scorer. To this point it hasn't really materialized, and even this year his assist totals are just okay given his role and TOI.

Barron, on the other hand, his game is so suited for the NHL. And even if he can't figure out how to score (he's big and strong enough that he shouldn't have too much of a problem translating the offense), the rest of his game still looks like a regular NHL player. He's also someone who came out of nowhere, but after putting himself on the map as a Freshman, he now has two other excellent seasons under his belt.

Barron seems like a safer projection, but also one who does more things in general. I'm not sure how "real" Pajuniemi is at this point. I hope he is and hope he makes it, but again, I have some healthy skepticism. I need to see more.

Well, and the other thing regarding Barron is that, at the time he was drafted, he was picked out of a much lower league that is much harder to project. It's much more believable that a guy flying under the radar there (not unlike a US high schooler who doesn't make the USNDTP) might suddenly gain relevance than a guy playing with a ton of peers who get drafted.

 

[JohnC]

I am thrilled Pajuniemi is having a great season, but I'm kind of skeptical at this point. This isn't a situation like Reunanen, a once highly-touted prospect who fell due to injuries, couldn't stay healthy, couldn't find regular minutes, etc. There was nothing about Pajuniemi to suggest this type of season was something he was capable of. Of course guys can exceed expectation and seemingly come out of nowhere (you could argue the same for Barron), but this whole season with Pajuniemi just seems... anomalous.

Pajuniemi is reliant on time and space to score. We know how limited those things are in the NHL. So many guys with that profile--"Needs to find time and space to get off his good shot"--fail miserably. The margins are razor thin. Pajuniemi doesn't play an awesome 200-foot game. He doesn't kill penalties. He's not going to win the battles in the corner. He's either going to score or he's not going to play, IMO. Watching him, I always considered him more of a creative puck distributor than a scorer. To this point it hasn't really materialized, and even this year his assist totals are just okay given his role and TOI.

Barron, on the other hand, his game is so suited for the NHL. And even if he can't figure out how to score (he's big and strong enough that he shouldn't have too much of a problem translating the offense), the rest of his game still looks like a regular NHL player. He's also someone who came out of nowhere, but after putting himself on the map as a Freshman, he now has two other excellent seasons under his belt.

Barron seems like a safer projection, but also one who does more things in general. I'm not sure how "real" Pajuniemi is at this point. I hope he is and hope he makes it, but again, I have some healthy skepticism. I need to see more.

Pajuniemi seems like another Teemu Pulkkinen to me tbh. He could probably translate this goal scoring to the AHL level but can't break that PP specialist threshold if he ever makes it to the NHL.

 

[nyr2k2]

Pajuniemi seems like another Teemu Pulkkinen to me tbh. He could probably translate this goal scoring to the AHL level but can't break that PP specialist threshold if he ever makes it to the NHL.

Before this season I had him projected out as a guy who could come over and have a few decent years in the AHL, bit would ultimately go back home or to Sweden and have a good, not great, career.

I don't really know where my projection stands now because what he's doing seems so totally random. I just don't know. Even with Reunanen who I mentioned earlier, it really wasn't until he played well here in camp that I said, "Okay, it's real." I need more from Pajuniemi to be a believer.

Otherwise, yeah, I think you could be correct in your projection. It's definitely a plausible one.