Proposal: Price to the Preds (Habs retain $1M)

[2022 Stanley Cup]

Well, Rinne did get pulled by allowing some soft goals in an important game. Price did have a bad year being hurt off and on and playing a bad team. I have no problem saying it how it is.

At what point since the conclusion of the 2014-2015 season has Price looked like a $10.5m goalie? Even like he was worth $9.5m? All of the habs fan I know believes that he is signed to a good contract and you are single-handily causing HF to lose it's collective mind.

 

[BrokenFace]

Sorry but late 1st round picks are not going to be helping the Preds win a cup with their current core. What? Do you want to win cups like the Blackhawks and have a top prospect pool as well? Pretty sure the Blackhawks are happy with their Cups.

The Preds are setup to contend for so long that the 1sts actually could develop into impact players during their window. If they do move on from the firsts, it should be for a more useful asset than Price. When the Preds get eliminated it seems to be because their offense dries up. That's probably where they should spend their assets

 

[405Exit]

The better answer if you don't like the deal is this..... Preds prefer to go with Rinne/Saros for another year and try to re-sign Rinne to a team friendly 2 year deal. Saying Price don't help the Preds get closer to a cup though is not something I'm going to back down from.

Gibson was top 5 goaltender last year. I was wrong he doesn’t need top 10 he’s top 5 and he got 6 million contract extension.

Top 10 2017-18 NHL Goalies | FantraxHQ|July 17, 2017

 

[habsgirl5000]

why would nashville want price anyway?

price is no upgrade on rinne

and they have saros to take over

you are trying to sell snow in the middle of winter

 

[Habs Halifax]

At what point since the conclusion of the 2014-2015 season has Price looked like a $10.5m goalie? Even like he was worth $9.5m? All of the habs fan I know believes that he is signed to a good contract and you are single-handily causing HF to lose it's collective mind.

I don't know about you but team Canada still valued him as their starting goalie for the 2016 world cup. Pretty sure NHL GM's value him way more than you do. The question here is to make an all in move or not. Price to acquire is steep no doubt and I bet you Bergevin asks for more than I am asking for.

Patch on the Habs with no top 2 centers <<< Patch on the Knights with top 2 centers.

Price on the Habs with our team D <<<<< Price on the Preds with their team D.

Karlsson on the Sens with their team core <<<<< Karlsson on the Sharks with their team core.

NHL GM's know player values. Once you bring down Price's AAV close to $9M, it becomes workable for a lot of teams but only teams that don't already have a proven goalie that is not past the age of 35. That's why I picked the Preds. Most other cup contenders already have their goaltender and he is young enough to support their cup runs.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The Preds are setup to contend for so long that the 1sts actually could develop into impact players during their window. If they do move on from the firsts, it should be for a more useful asset than Price. When the Preds get eliminated it seems to be because their offense dries up. That's probably where they should spend their assets

Preds are set up to win in the next 4 or 5 years ish with the current contracts they have in place. Define your "for so long" time span? After 4 or 5 years, it's anybodies guess how good they will be.

The other thing that should be interesting to watch is the potential of $24M cap recapture penalty they could face when Weber's salary drops to $3M at age 37 and then $1M at age 38-40. Weber's contract is designed for him to retire at age 37 or 38. I know its not the Preds fault cause the Flyers screwed them over with the offer sheet but thinking the cap recapture penalty will just go away is not being reasonable. We will see what the next CBA looks like

 

[Habs Halifax]

Gibson was top 5 goaltender last year. I was wrong he doesn’t need top 10 he’s top 5 and he got 6 million contract extension.

Food for thought before spewing balogne.

Top 10 2017-18 NHL Goalies | FantraxHQ|July 17, 2017

Gibson was horrible in the playoffs. I think he is a solid starting NHL goalie and he is paid accordingly. But he is not a top 10 NHL goalie. Not yet anyways.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

1) Pretty sure Price would waive his NMC to play for a cup contender and be reunited with Subban.

2) Preds have Rinne who disappointed in the playoffs and is age 35 on a $7M contract. Do they believe Saros can replace Rinne? Not sure.

3) Preds have no major contracts to negotiate for several years aside from Josi (2 more years). The core is set except for in net. Preds currently have over $9M in cap space so that is not an issue moving forward.

4) What does a guy like Price do for the Preds and does he get them closer to winning a cup in the next 5 years?

Price ($1M retained) for Rinne, Tolvanen, 2019 1st, 2020 2nd, 2022 1st? We can also talk after July 1st of 2019 after Price gets paid his bonus.

I think the trade is legit, but never offer Price on those Boards, people tend to think Price Value is near Lucic Value. They are seriously disconnected to not see how Price would win a cup with a structured team. The only thing they see is his injury last year and his contract, they are clueless.

Rinne + tolv + 2019 first is the right price for a goaltender like price, no one is near him in the league.

But again, they offered us 2x 7rd pick for Pacio and we got Tatar,picks and Suzuki, so don't get your hopes up to receive legit offer from clueless fans.

 

[Arselona]

The suggested return from Preds is obviously way too high, goaltenders don't fetch a return like that. Rinne laid an egg against Winnipeg in that final game, but that could happen with any goalie, even Price. Preds have had several deep runs with Rinne. Also, you dont even need a top goaltender to win the cup.

How are Price's fatigue issues btw?

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

Preds are set up to win in the next 4 or 5 years ish with the current contracts they have in place. Define your "for so long" time span?

Well, the only key player over 30 is Rinne, most of the core guys are signed long term and in the 23-27 age range, 3 of our top 4 defensemen are signed for at least the next 4 years, the only player in our top 6 that's a UFA in the next 4 years is Smith, who is the worst player in our top 6, we have $10 million in cap space. I mean, it's about as well as you can be set up in a salary cap world.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I think the trade is legit, but never offer Price on those Boards, people tend to think Price Value is near Lucic Value. They are seriously disconnected to not see how Price would win a cup with a structured team. The only thing they see is his injury last year and his contract, they are clueless.

Rinne + tolv + 2019 first is the right price for a goaltender like price, no one is near him in the league.

But again, they offered us 2x 7rd pick for Pacio and we got Tatar,picks and Suzuki, so don't get your hopes up to receive legit offer from clueless fans.

Agreed. But there are some who avoid the trolling. I'm more interested in a conversation with them.

 

[Gm0ney]

I can't see any team being interested in Price in exchange for anything significant. That contract is just terrible at $10.5M and it's not a whole lot better with $1M retained. Coming off a terrible year, 31 years old and 8 years left on his deal? No thanks.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

The suggested return from Preds is obviously way too high, goaltenders don't fetch a return like that. Rinne laid an egg against Winnipeg in that final game, but that could happen with any goalie, even Price. Preds have had several deep runs with Rinne. Also, you dont even need a top goaltender to win the cup.

How are Price's fatigue issues btw?

you don't need a top goaltender to win a cup ?
Did you see brodeur or Roy play ? wtf are you saying, it's an INSANE + to have a top tier goalie

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

I can't see any team being interested in Price in exchange for anything significant. That contract is just terrible at $10.5M and it's not a whole lot better with $1M retained. Coming off a terrible year, 31 years old and 8 years left on his deal? No thanks.

you just signed Hell to a terrible contract for ONE GOOD SEASON, and you are telling me that price contract is bad ? lmao

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

you don't need a top goaltender to win a cup ?
Did you see brodeur or Roy play ? wtf are you saying, it's an INSANE + to have a top tier goalie

It's a plus but it's not necessary. See 2010 Stanley Cup Final.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

It's a plus but it's not necessary. See 2010 Stanley Cup Final.

Ya sure if you have the 2008 RedWings in front of you ,you clearly don't need a goaltender, but no other teams have that anymore.
No GM in the league would spit on a Healthy Price to win a cup, they would over pay if they were sure he would be healthy until 38 years old ( which he will )

 

[Habs Halifax]

Well, the only key player over 30 is Rinne, most of the core guys are signed long term and in the 23-27 age range, 3 of our top 4 defensemen are signed for at least the next 4 years, the only player in our top 6 that's a UFA in the next 4 years is Smith, who is the worst player in our top 6, we have $10 million in cap space. I mean, it's about as well as you can be set up in a salary cap world.

Cap hell starts when you have to re-sign Subban and Forsberg after 4 more years (with or without Price's $9M). Subban will be age 33 and Forsberg will be 28. It's quite possible they are still a good team at that point but how many teams have you seen be cup contenders for more than 7 years (2 years prior to this year and another 5 ish)?

You don't have to like it and I know you don't but this is how I see it... When you have a team like the Preds, you should consider making an all in move. Price could be the difference between a cup or no cup. If Rinne was the same age as Price, I would of not made this offer.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

Cap hell starts when you have to re-sign Subban and Forsberg after 4 more years (with or without Price's $9M). Subban will be age 33 and Forsberg will be 28. It's quite possible they are still a good team at that point but how many teams have you seen be cup contenders for more than 7 years (2 years prior to this year and another 5 ish).

You don't have to like it and I know you don't but this is how I see it... When you have a team like the Preds, you should consider making an all in move. Price could be the difference between a cup or no cup. If Rinne was the same age as Price, I would of not made this offer.

Or we could just keep the team that made it to the Final in 2017 and won the President's Trophy last year intact. If we're going to make an "all-in" move, it's not going to be for a goalie, especially a goalie as expensive and signed as long as Price coming off a terrible year.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Cap hell starts when you have to re-sign Subban and Forsberg after 4 more years (with or without Price's $9M). Subban will be age 33 and Forsberg will be 28. It's quite possible they are still a good team at that point but how many teams have you seen be cup contenders for more than 7 years (2 years prior to this year and another 5 ish)?

You don't have to like it and I know you don't but this is how I see it... When you have a team like the Preds, you should consider making an all in move. Price could be the difference between a cup or no cup. If Rinne was the same age as Price, I would of not made this offer.

Exactly, their Window is 3-4 years MAX MAX MAX. No team can stay that competitive for 7 years, The margin is way too thin, you might only if you have a generational player like Crosby/Malkin/Mc

 

[Habs Halifax]

The suggested return from Preds is obviously way too high, goaltenders don't fetch a return like that. Rinne laid an egg against Winnipeg in that final game, but that could happen with any goalie, even Price. Preds have had several deep runs with Rinne. Also, you dont even need a top goaltender to win the cup.

How are Price's fatigue issues btw?

You do need a goalie who performs in the playoffs. Not saying Price does this guaranteed but he is a game changer in net. Rinne played 13 playoff games with a 3.07 GAA and a .904 Sv%. I don't care how good the Preds D is, that is not going to be good enough. Will he repeat it? I have no idea but he is going to be 36 in Nov.

Rinne is almost 6 years older than Price and people think the gap between them is marginal. If Price is old and in decline, Rinne is a dinosaur!

 

[Roman Yoshi]

This deal is Gritty levels of scary for Nashville

 

[paragon]

Price has negative value because of his contract. That deal makes sense only if it is Price with 50% retained.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Exactly, their Window is 3-4 years MAX MAX MAX. No team can stay that competitive for 7 years, The margin is way too thin, you might only if you have a generational player like Crosby/Malkin/Mc

They want to acquire Price for cheap and at 50% retention and keep their prospect pool. Greedy bunch of hypocrites

 

[Habs Halifax]

Price has negative value because of his contract. That deal makes sense only if it is Price with 50% retained.

Price at $5.25M? That is well below the top goalie salaries. Do you really think he has declined that badly? Come on man. If you want Price at 50% retention, the price goes up.

Do you live in the 90's or something?

 

[Soundgarden]

They want to acquire Price for cheap and at 50% retention and keep their prospect pool. Greedy bunch of hypocrites

No, we don't. YOU have been the only one trying to pawn off Price and his god awful contract on to use while trying to get the current Vezina winner, our best prospect, and several picks out of us. Get lost.

We are more than happy with Rinne and Saros going forward. This is just been eight pages of you trying to get everyone else to believe that Price's contract is worth it.