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I don’t even know how they justify Chiarot being one of our regular 6 defenseman based on ice-play… so I think his salary/contract has to be coming into play.
He has to be an amazing practice player. Which makes sense because physical tools wise he's really good. He just has no idea how to read and react appropriately to what's going on around him. Which is why he can both have really good plays every now and then but be completely inept the next shift.I don’t even know how they justify Chiarot being one of our regular 6 defenseman based on ice-play… so I think his salary/contract has to be coming into play.
I don’t even know how they justify Chiarot being one of our regular 6 defenseman based on ice-play… so I think his salary/contract has to be coming into play.
Maybe, I think it's possible Ras or Perron start up with Larkin and Debrincat, but I definitely think you can have Raymond-Larkin-Debrincat as a line even with Raymond being his size. The stereotype is that Debrincat needs Kane and Kane is no bigger than Lucas Raymond. Raymond would feast on having a RH shot like Debrincat, I think, and their same handedness isn't a detriment at all if they played together. Watching Raymond's highlights from last year he had some killer set ups that were blown, although not trying to blame his line mates for his season. Both can pass and shoot from either side and Raymond is a creative playmaker that would love a finisher.I still think he puts a bigger player on the top line with DBC, not Ray. Probably Perron, but I'm actually hoping Raz took another step over the summer. That's all I'm willing to go out on a limb for. Fester likes Perron and Raz, so it's in line with his thinking.
Ray is one of the best one touch passer in the league, but then again so was Hirose. Ray has better skating, shooting and is bigger, but he doesn't carry the puck the way Kane did. Kane wasn't just a passer, he had ridiculous puck skills and an uncanny ability to avoid checks. Watch his highlights, Raymond (and Burger too) is still an AHLer compared to what Kane did in his prime.Maybe, I think it's possible Ras or Perron start up with Larkin and Debrincat, but I definitely think you can have Raymond-Larkin-Debrincat as a line even with Raymond being his size. The stereotype is that Debrincat needs Kane and Kane is no bigger than Lucas Raymond. Raymond would feast on having a RH shot like Debrincat, I think, and their same handedness isn't a detriment at all if they played together. Watching Raymond's highlights from last year he had some killer set ups that were blown, although not trying to blame his line mates for his season. Both can pass and shoot from either side and Raymond is a creative playmaker that would love a finisher.
I guess that's why I only compared their size. I don't need to watch his highlights, I watched his career. He's my favorite American player of all time.Ray is one of the best one touch passer in the league, but then again so was Hirose. Ray has better skating, shooting and is bigger, but he doesn't carry the puck the way Kane did. Kane wasn't just a passer, he had ridiculous puck skills and an uncanny ability to avoid checks. Watch his highlights, Raymond (and Burger too) is still an AHLer compared to what Kane did in his prime.
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They're hardly irrelevant unless you plan on playing Seider and Walman 30 minutes a night.
You need your top D to play 23+
Your #2 to play 21+
Your #3 and 4 to play 20+
Even your bottom pair need to be reliable for 17+ minutes a night.
The best way to mitigate Chiarot is to reduce his icetime to 3rd pair icetime. We witnessed how bad Chiarot was with Seider and Hronek, 2 defensemen that are better offensively than him. We were warned by Montreal Canadiens fans here that he sucks defensively and doesn't make good use of his partner. How many times do you need to put your hand in the fire to realize it's hot?
Umm, there are only 60 minutes in a game. How do you three pairs as you mentioned end up playing 64 total minutes?
You read that wrong, he's not talking about pairs. Otherwise he'd have 4 pairs, for 84 minutes.Umm, there are only 60 minutes in a game. How do you three pairs as you mentioned end up playing 64 total minutes?
Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond
Rasmussen - Copp - Perron
Berggren - Compher - Sprong
Kostin - Kasper - Fischer
Walman - Seider (this just works)
Maatta - Ghostisbehere (defensive and offensive combo)
Chiarot - Petry (MTL days)
Holl extra?
I think we need his puck movement. I can see the argument for mixing in 7 D-man if we are healthy which again probably isn't very likely.Depending on how the powerplay shakes out, I think there's a larger chance Ghost is splitting the sit duties. I'm just trying to mentally prepare people for that.
I think we need his puck movement. I can see the argument for mixing in 7 D-man if we are healthy which again probably isn't very likely.
Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond
Rasmussen - Copp - Perron
Berggren - Compher - Sprong
Kostin - Kasper - Fischer
Walman - Seider (this just works)
Maatta - Ghostisbehere (defensive and offensive combo)
Chiarot - Petry (MTL days)
Holl extra?
Where's Fabbri and Veleno?
I think we need his puck movement. I can see the argument for mixing in 7 D-man if we are healthy which again probably isn't very likely.
Just going by odds here, when the puck is dropped in game 1, a micro shard of frozen rock hard rubber will chip off the puck and hit Fabbri right on the side of his knee, completely obliterating his ACL. Out 4-6 months.Where's Fabbri and Veleno?
Hand | Games | Goals | Assists | Points | Pts/game | |
S. Gostisbehere | LD | 157 | 27 | 65 | 92 | 0,59 |
Moritz Seider | RD | 164 | 12 | 80 | 92 | 0,56 |
Jeff Petry | RD | 129 | 11 | 47 | 58 | 0,45 |
Ben Chiarot | LD | 150 | 14 | 31 | 45 | 0,30 |
Justin Holl | RD | 149 | 5 | 36 | 41 | 0,28 |
Jake Walman | LD | 114 | 12 | 16 | 28 | 0,25 |
Olli Määttä | LD | 144 | 7 | 24 | 31 | 0,22 |
Simon Edvinsson | LD | 9 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0,22 |
Walman - SeiderRasmussen - Larkin - DeBrincat
Berggren - Compher - Raymond
Kostin - Copp - Fischer
Fabbri - (rotating Center) - Sprong
Rotating 4C isn't a bad idea, but Fabbri won't be on the 4th line. It'll be 2 of Fischer/Kostin/Sprong.Going with 7D and rotating those three centers (Larkin, Compher, Copp) with heavy ice-times?
Rasmussen - Larkin - DeBrincat
Berggren - Compher - Raymond
Kostin - Copp - Fischer
Fabbri - (rotating Center) - Sprong
Any combination of...
Fabbri - Larkin - Sprong, Fabbri - Compher - Sprong, Fabbri - Copp - Sprong
...as a 4th line, is pretty strong.
Is (rotating Center) some kind of new nickname for Veleno?Going with 7D and rotating those three centers (Larkin, Compher, Copp) with heavy ice-times?
Rasmussen - Larkin - DeBrincat
Berggren - Compher - Raymond
Kostin - Copp - Fischer
Fabbri - (rotating Center) - Sprong
Any combination of...
Fabbri - Larkin - Sprong, Fabbri - Compher - Sprong, Fabbri - Copp - Sprong
...as a 4th line, is pretty strong.