Speculation: POLL: Would you match the offer sheet on KK ?

[Lebowski]

When you think about it, what was KK's market value before signing the offer sheet?

Certainly not a top 3 pick. If we go back to the draft, I don't think we'd get a top 10 pick either. A likely low 1st and a 3rd isn't great, but it's probably not far off his actual value.

 

[Just Linda]

And you think KK is anywhere close to interrest Buffalo for Eichel?

No but he'd be one of the 4 pieces.

 

[Zorba]

Why would the habs not match the offer?? Ok he’s not worth the AAV. But it’s a one year deal. The canes hardly screwed the habs. If it was long term deal like for 7 years sure, but a one year deal!
It will be matched

 

[Saxon]

Why would the habs not match the offer?? Ok he’s not worth the AAV. But it’s a one year deal. The canes hardly screwed the habs. If it was long term deal like for 7 years sure, but a one year deal!
It will be matched

Every RFA year his qualifying offer starts at 6.1..... or he's a ufa and we lose him for nothing. So it may as well be a multi year deal.

 

[Gravity]

Wouldn't be surprised if Bergevin doesn't match. He is likely done with KK after KK signed this and not matching this kind of screws over Carolina. Another 1st from a team that will do worse than last year when the draft is in Montreal.

Not with Timmins leading the charge to the podium. His track record with F's is awful.

 

[Tripledeke333]

You definitely can't do that. The contract is signed, it's just a matter of which team.

I see I’m probably wrong. I thought that say Montreal trades him to Chicago, then Chicago would have the option of matching or taking the draft pick compensation.

 

[Koivu11]

Nope. I say let them deal with having to massively overpay him.

Take the picks and move on.

 

[Saxon]

I see I’m probably wrong. I thought that say Montreal trades him to Chicago, then Chicago would have the option of matching or taking the draft pick compensation.

Technically..... he's Carolina property right now. He is under contract with them. All we have the right to do is match.

 

[Koivu11]

Why would the habs not match the offer?? Ok he’s not worth the AAV. But it’s a one year deal. The canes hardly screwed the habs. If it was long term deal like for 7 years sure, but a one year deal!
It will be matched

It’s because you have to qualify him at 6.1M after next season. That’s the real problem.

 

[Lebowski]

Every RFA year his qualifying offer starts at 6.1..... or he's a ufa and we lose him for nothing. So it may as well be a multi year deal.

Exactly, and if you keep him and plan on trading him a year from now, you better hope he performs this season, or else his RFA rights aren't worth anything with a QO over 6 M$.

So unless Bergevin feels confident he'll be able to get him on a long term deal at a reasonable AAV next year, a late 1st and a 3rd round pick might be the best value you can get for KK.

And if you're KK, there's not much of an incentive to give the Habs a bargain on a long term deal next season. He's the one that'll have all the leverage.

 

[Zorba]

It’s because you have to qualify him at 6M after next season. That’s the real problem.

Well if he get 55 pts like he should after 4 year it’s not a problem. The problem is Suzuki the following year

 

[74 others]

It all depends if Bergy can filp the picks in a trade for a good C.

 

[Gainesvillain]

What do you think MB should do ?

6.1M$/1 year
1st + 3rd compensation.

Take the pick.

KK has no future in MTL at this point unfortunately. Not even flashes of elite talent to justify $6 million - very low-end 2C is his ceiling.. And Bergevin should have seen it coming - he drafted for position in the one year where C was weak. In a normal draft, KK is the 3rd or 4th C taken. Mid-first.

 

[Paddyjack]

Take the pick.

KK has no future in MTL at this point unfortunately. Not even flashes of elite talent to justify $6 million - very low-end 2C is his ceiling.. And Bergevin should have seen it coming - he drafted for position in the one year where C was weak. In a normal draft, KK is the 3rd or 4th C taken. Mid-first.

I would add that agreeing on adding this 20$ nonsense to his contract is a huge middle finger to the organisation.

 

[The Great Weal]

When you think about it, what was KK's market value before signing the offer sheet?

Certainly not a top 3 pick. If we go back to the draft, I don't think we'd get a top 10 pick either. A likely low 1st and a 3rd isn't great, but it's probably not far off his actual value.

I think it was roughly a low 1st and a 2nd. If he has a mediocre season his value is likely a 2nd.

 

[Habby4Life]

Just let him go and go hard on Eichel

 

[mbz]

Love KK, but I think I let him walk here.. I think the canes regress this year, their goaltending is a big question mark, and they are in a way better division now. Let the 6.1M be their problem...

 

[The don godfather]

Bruins fan here . Match it . Why ? Kids good I think real good . That 1st round pick might be some 20 th overall . It's not enticing.

 

[ottawa]

Yes. But for reasons.

Match it, trade KK as part of an Eichel offer.

Buffalo isn't touching KK at 6m lol

Montreal can still trade him I believe. I would see if anyone would offer more than a 1st and 3rd. If no takers I would offer KK term (maybe something like $4.5 Million over four years). I would not sign that offer sheet. Carolina can pay $6 million for KK and we will take the picks (maybe flip the picks for a second line center).

Nope, can't trade him. You either match it or you don't.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Good for KK sticking up for himself. Treated like shit in the playoffs so forcing Montreal’s hand looks good on the organization. If they match they are forced to give him an opportunity to earn it. If they don’t he gets a fresh start with a coach who can develop talented kids.

 

[26Mats]

Let him go, he'll never be worth that money even at his peak.

Let's let all our centers go and put Drouin back at center.

 

[TesseractPrice]

Bergevin got dunked on hard. His job is to make the Habs better, not make the Canes worse

A late 1st and a 3rd is a shit return for Kotkaniemi IMO. It sets the team back a lot

This is a lose-lose scenario. Either we match him and we overpay and we have to qualify him by that amount or we lose him for a low value

This sucks. I would match but yeah... "Qui sème le vent récolte la tempête" as they say in French. Bergevin got schooled

 

[LyricalLyricist]

What precedent does it set for our other players if we match?

That you can be currently a 3rd line talent with upside but deserve top 3/6 money just because? if he deserves this what does Suzuki get?

 

[CauZuki]

Let him go, he'll never be worth that money even at his peak.

You have no way of knowing that and our bottom 1st have barely been NHLers...

Money isn't ideal but Kotkaniemi is 21 and is very much part of the core group unless Habs want to keep shooting themselves in the foot...

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

no let him walk.
This also makes Bergevin look like a moron agian which is even better cause he should be fired by now.