Speculation: PLD Mega Thread 2.0

[hockeeyyy]

On behalf of all Habs fans. Sorry for that.

All good. We have our crazy fans too. Good game last night!

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

how generous of you. Next

Habs fans are clueless (and I love the Habs)

 

[hamzarocks]

PLD is good but hes not getting you Koko/Suzuki/Romo

futures sure and id even include Guhle if needed but thats it nuff said

You listed a bust, a 40 pt center and a unproven defender?

Just because Bergervin got robbed trading for Drouin doesn't mean you can try to do so for PLD

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Monahan
First 2021
Pelletier/Zary

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

All good. We have our crazy fans too. Good game last night!

Any game where the Leafs won against the Habs is not a good game in my books hehe. But looking forward to 9 other heated contests!

 

[Theodore450]

Ryder, Halak. 2nd territory

Habs fans overrating their players is a hilarious thing

You misunderstand what an offer is. You don’t like it move on. It takes 2 to make a deal

 

[Theodore450]

Cbj hangs up

That’s cool where not looking for a C rn anyways

 

[Rico Suave]

Screenshot this if you want

Habs will NOT Trade Suzuki for PLD

If columbus only wants him then bye bye will see you in 4 years

 

[Bouboumaster]

Would love to get PLD, but Suzuki isn't going anywhere lol
Won't happen.

Would trade either Kotkaniemi or Danault, and add what it takes to make it palatable to Colombus (I'm ready to sacrifice either Guhle or Caufield, among others), but Suzuki and Romanov are staying right where they are.


I'd do that:

Kotkaniemi or Danault
Caufield or Guhle
1st (protected top 3)

 

[SRHRangers]

I was waiting for the daily Pupu Platter offer from the Sens today.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Would love to get PLD, but Suzuki isn't going anywhere lol
Won't happen.

Would trade either Kotkaniemi or Danault, and add what it takes to make it palatable to Colombus (I'm ready to sacrifice either Guhle or Caufield, among others), but Suzuki and Romanov are staying right where they are.


I'd do that:

Kotkaniemi or Danault
Caufield or Guhle
1st (protected top 3)

How do we fit under the cap if KK is the piece?

 

[Theodore450]

How do we fit under the cap if KK is the piece?

You can’t and that why I didn’t even offer kk

 

[Carlzner]

I like Dubois a whole lot but calling him a “already a star #1C” is a massive exaggeration. Star #1C’s have more than a career high of 61 points. He was on pace for 57 points last year, so I’ve read in this thread. That doesn’t make you a star #1C. Hell, I’m not convinced it makes you an average #1C.

Sure. But Dubois' grit & two-way game bump him up quite a bit. I think he's the kind of player who would absolutely thrive under Julien. Letting go of Suzuki to acquire him is a total no-brainer in my eyes.

 

[sansabri]

Sure. But Dubois' grit & two-way game bump him up quite a bit. I think he's the kind of player who would absolutely thrive under Julien. Letting go of Suzuki to acquire him is a total no-brainer in my eyes.

we have enough grit and two-way play on the Habs as it is. we need skill

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Habs aren’t trading Suzuki. We wouldn’t be cap compliant.

 

[Carlzner]

we have enough grit and two-way play on the Habs as it is. we need skill

Dubois has plenty of skill. He "only" has a career high of 61 but he's still young and has been playing on an offensively starved/Torts coached team his whole career.

 

[canucklover123]

CBJ fans are nuts if they think there going to get FMV for Dubois, it only gets worse every day this gets extended.
Some centres they can look at Necas (CAR), Chytil (NYR), KK (MTL)

MTL at best gives up KK, Guhle/Norlinder/Caufield and a 1st protected. They would also have to give up cap

In the end, its going to be Danault as the main piece

 

[Juxtaposer]

Sure. But Dubois' grit & two-way game bump him up quite a bit. I think he's the kind of player who would absolutely thrive under Julien. Letting go of Suzuki to acquire him is a total no-brainer in my eyes.

That’s fine, it’s just that calling Dubois a star #1C is a blatant misrepresentation of what he is. His two-way game isn’t exemplary (what makes a guy like Bergeron a star #1C despite not having Crosby-like numbers) enough to push him to that level.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Petry+Romanov+Suzuki+Gallagher for Jones+PLD

 

[EveryDay]

Suzuki is MTL player with the most value, he's not going anywhere.

 

[HuGo Sham]

You listed a bust, a 40 pt center and a unproven defender?

Just because Bergervin got robbed trading for Drouin doesn't mean you can try to do so for PLD

bust? you're f***ing clueless. sit down

 

[DJA]

CBJ fans are nuts if they think there going to get FMV for Dubois, it only gets worse every day this gets extended.

no it really doesn’t.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Young top 6 centers just off their ELC are rarely traded so it's really hard to place an exact value on PLD by comparison. Dubois is currently in his D+4 year. Here are some examples of other top 6 centers traded around that age:
Zibanejad (D+5) - traded for a more established (at the time) center, along with a 2nd.
D. Strome (D+3) - along with another former 1st rounder was traded for a D+4 1st rounder C/W in a "change of scenery" move
O'Reilly (D+6) - traded for 2 younger 1st round prospects and a 2nd round prospects, as well as a 2nd.
J. Staal (D+6) - traded for a good defense prospect, a D+5 promising young player, and a 1st.
Seguin (D+3) - along with a decent defense prospect and a cap dump, was traded for an established top end winger, a promising D+4 winger, and a solid defense prospect

These are the ones I can think of right now but anyone can think of some more examples that would be great

 

[KingsCrown]

Villardi
Madden or Thomas
Clague
2021 1st or 2022 1st (LA choice)

CLB gets a potential 1st/2nd line roster center, a solid center prospect in Madden or Thomas, D prospect about to break into the Kings lineup and a 1st which will likely be top 15 in 2021/22.

 

[General Fanager]

I would do KK ++

But not Suzuki or Romanov.


If CBJ insists( and I dont blame them) , there isn't a deal to be made.