Playoff Race/Standings

[The Gongshow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HO2n1WV0E5b3Zc1TG-QKweQGqXs7jUW5_QW5k-A_KAQ/edit?usp=sharing

Oh god we go on the big bad west trip soon. ANA, LA, SJ, CHI .... Is Bish gonna be back for that?? (I don't think so)

 

[HoseEmDown]

That was a good loss today, we are officially in the bottom 3rd of the standings. Buffalo picked up a nice 2 points unfortunately Winnipeg couldn't take it to overtime to get a point themselves. We really need to get into the bottom 5, picks 6-15 aren't impressive and won't be helpful for a few years.

 

[The Gongshow]

That was a good loss today, we are officially in the bottom 3rd of the standings. Buffalo picked up a nice 2 points unfortunately Winnipeg couldn't take it to overtime to get a point themselves. We really need to get into the bottom 5, picks 6-15 aren't impressive and won't be helpful for a few years.

Agreed. If its not top 5 then its not worth it or the tank. Its playoffs or top5

 

[Todd1a]

We should change this to NHL lottery standings

 

[HoseEmDown]

We should change this to NHL lottery standings

Don't jinx it. We will end up going on a hot streak and miss the playoffs by 1 point that way.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

That was a good loss today, we are officially in the bottom 3rd of the standings. Buffalo picked up a nice 2 points unfortunately Winnipeg couldn't take it to overtime to get a point themselves. We really need to get into the bottom 5, picks 6-15 aren't impressive and won't be helpful for a few years.

I don't know man, giving this scouting staff a 6-15 pick is dangerous.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I don't know man, giving this scouting staff a 6-15 pick is dangerous.

The scouting staff is completely overrated. Who's making a huge impact from their picks besides the 2011 class? Even that class it looks like Kucherov is the only good one. We got a bunch of depth players, not a bunch of studs.

 

[ultra63]

"Lost to Philadelphia 2-4, playoff odds down 8.5 to 22.1%"

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Atlantic/TampaBay.html

 

[Todd1a]

I don't know man, giving this scouting staff a 6-15 pick is dangerous.

Got to say they have been garbage drafting defenseman. Koekoek still can't crack our top 6 daily.

 

[HoseEmDown]

The scouting staff got lucky teams didn't think Kucherov would come over that early and a player passed over in two prior drafts turned into a good player before regressing into a typical late round depth player. 1 home run in 5 or 6 drafts? I mean we have drafted better than we did in the past but that's because of how bad we drafted in the past.

 

[The Gongshow]

We need another Stamkos or Hedman not a Paq or Names. Need higher draft picks!!!

OTT and TOR lost tonight

 

[DFC]

Boston got a point and Ottawa got a win. Things are pretty dire now. We squandered our chance to jump back in, and now we're really up against a wall.

 

[Todd1a]

We are screwed thursday is a maybe we could win Friday is a loss for darn sure vs the jackets

 

[The Gongshow]

When asked if Tampa should panic

 

[The Macho King]

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Atlantic/TampaBay.html

Tampa now at 12.8% chance to make the playoffs. This break did us no favors.

And if we lose today, that drops to below 8% (which is why I say tonight is an absolutely must win to have any chance).

Edit:

This link for a visualization of how our season has gone: http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Atlantic/TampaBay_ChanceWillMakePlayoffs.html

 

[Todd1a]

When asked if Tampa should panic

It was time to panic a week ago

 

[Todd1a]

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Atlantic/TampaBay.html

Tampa now at 12.8% chance to make the playoffs. This break did us no favors.

And if we lose today, that drops to below 8% (which is why I say tonight is an absolutely must win to have any chance).

Edit:

This link for a visualization of how our season has gone: http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Atlantic/TampaBay_ChanceWillMakePlayoffs.html

for us to make the playoffs we would need to go on a ottawa run like they did a few seasons back. like go something like 25-11-5

 

[DFC]

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Atlantic/TampaBay.html

Tampa now at 12.8% chance to make the playoffs. This break did us no favors.

And if we lose today, that drops to below 8% (which is why I say tonight is an absolutely must win to have any chance).

Edit:

This link for a visualization of how our season has gone: http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Atlantic/TampaBay_ChanceWillMakePlayoffs.html

We need both of these games to avoid needing an absolute miracle to get in.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Tonight we have a massive game that can help us, I'm talking Detroit vs Dallas. If we lose in regulation and that game goes to OT with the Wings winning we are right there in the bottom 5. The wings would be even on points with a game in hand, the Devils also play and if they win we'd be even on points, we have a better goal differential. The Islanders would be 4 back with 4 games in hand. Really think we need top 3 for any chance at Hirschier as he's climbing, Liljegren is slipping so we could get him around 3-5 but with Vegas coming in we have another team who might bump us and if both Patrick and Hirschier gone Liljegren might be the best choice for them. Vilardi, Mittelstadt, Tolvanen, Tippett, Hague and Necas are the next best but there's a definitive drop from the top 2 forwards to that group and between Liljegren and Hague. I think we will pick around 5 and with how the draft should go so we might be in a spot to trade the pick, unless Vilardi or Tippett show they might be NHL ready next year we need this pick to be a player right away.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

Tonight we have a massive game that can help us, I'm talking Detroit vs Dallas. If we lose in regulation and that game goes to OT with the Wings winning we are right there in the bottom 5. The wings would be even on points with a game in hand, the Devils also play and if they win we'd be even on points, we have a better goal differential. The Islanders would be 4 back with 4 games in hand. Really think we need top 3 for any chance at Hirschier as he's climbing, Liljegren is slipping so we could get him around 3-5 but with Vegas coming in we have another team who might bump us and if both Patrick and Hirschier gone Liljegren might be the best choice for them. Vilardi, Mittelstadt, Tolvanen, Tippett, Hague and Necas are the next best but there's a definitive drop from the top 2 forwards to that group and between Liljegren and Hague. I think we will pick around 5 and with how the draft should go so we might be in a spot to trade the pick, unless Vilardi or Tippett show they might be NHL ready next year we need this pick to be a player right away.

I wouldn't count on that pretty much ever with this staff.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I wouldn't count on that pretty much ever with this staff.

I have no faith in Cooper developing any prospect. Besides Kucherov the only prospect he had hit their ceiling has been Paquette? Drouin, Koekkoek, Namestnikov haven't hit anything close to potential. Connolly was turned into a grinder, Panik, Gudas and Marchessault did well one they got away from him. His early hits, Johnson, Palat, Barberio even Conacher to an extent all fell from grace quickly. Don't have any hopes with him and prospect development.

 

[Todd1a]

I wouldn't count on that pretty much ever with this staff.

Cooper and yzerman don't rush kids I'd bet the house if we picked 5th that player would go back to juniors with yzerman running this show.

 

[Todd1a]

I have no faith in Cooper developing any prospect. Besides Kucherov the only prospect he had hit their ceiling has been Paquette? Drouin, Koekkoek, Namestnikov haven't hit anything close to potential. Connolly was turned into a grinder, Panik, Gudas and Marchessault did well one they got away from him. His early hits, Johnson, Palat, Barberio even Conacher to an extent all fell from grace quickly. Don't have any hopes with him and prospect development.

I think yzerman blamed that all on rob zettler.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I think yzerman blamed that all on rob zettler.

All what? The only players you can blame Zettler on are Koekkoek and Gudlevskis. The rest he had minimal work with as the head coach. Cooper had more contact with most of the ones I listed.

 

[Todd1a]

All what? The only players you can blame Zettler on are Koekkoek and Gudlevskis. The rest he had minimal work with as the head coach. Cooper had more contact with most of the ones I listed.

Cooper kids have ran out only Johnson, palat and killorn are left from the crunch team he coached. I think he coach vladdy and sustr for a half a season.