Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguin Salary Thread: TDL - 7 Days.....

[PensandCaps]

He turned 24 a month ago.

Saying Raddysh sucks and is a nothing asset is basically saying O'Connor sucks and is a nothing asset.

I mean. he don't suck, but pretty close to no value around the league.

 

[Gurglesons]

He turned 24 a month ago.

Saying Raddysh sucks and is a nothing asset is basically saying O'Connor sucks and is a nothing asset.

DOC just became pro last year. Raddysh has been pro for like 4 years.

although, we've seen other good older AHL players leave Tampa and light it up elsewhere.

Usually they impress with Tampa though. Raddysh was given the audition this year and basically stunk up the joint.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I'm really not sold on Garland. He seems like he has all the makings of yet another smallish, "do everything" middle-6 guy who ends up being a 15-20g, 40pt player making a good chunk of cap. I'd rather not pay absolute top dollar for that kinda guy yet again, even if this is the last realistic* run at the Cup.

*pretty extreme outside chance

 

[Pancakes]

Can I just say as well that Katchouk also sounds like a root vegetable? No? I'm the only one who's got Friday brain?

 

[Andy99]

Based on the price being thrown out for Hagel, I'm glad the Penguins didn't do that.

Trading that much for a 15 goal, 40 point guy having a career season would make me super uncomfortable. Tampa Bay can do it because they're firmly in the middle of their contending window, considering the age of their core. The Penguins aren't at that point anymore.

This is a deal I would have loved to see the Penguins make in like 2012 or 2013.

Disagree…this is exactly the type of deal the Pens should be making now as he’s signed for the next couple years at a cheap rate

 

[Turin]

Age thing also depends on their development league. 24 NCAA prospect usually in a much different spot than somebody from the CHL at that age.

 

[Gurglesons]

Took Teddy that long to break into the league and I don't think anyone would complain about the type of player he's become.

Not saying that Taylor Turnip will become a good player but Taylor Parnsips might yet become something

Yes, but when Teddy broke into the league he produced immediately.

 

[Empoleon8771]

DOC just became pro last year. Raddysh has been pro for like 4 years.

Okay? Put O'Connor in the AHL at the same age as Raddysh and he wouldn't have done any better than Raddysh.

 

[Pancakes]

I'm really not sold on Garland. He seems like he has all the makings of yet another smallish, "do everything" middle-6 guy who ends up being a 15-20g, 40pt player making a good chunk of cap. I'd rather not pay absolute top dollar for that kinda guy yet again, even if this is the last realistic* run at the Cup.

*pretty extreme outside chance

Garland is a souped up Conor Sheary. He's Sheary with more grit. He will one day score a stanley cup final face off goal for us if we get him

 

[Turin]

Late firsts are overrated af tho. Pens shouldn’t keep theirs if the right deal comes around.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Disagree…this is exactly the type of deal the Pens should be making now as he’s signed for the next couple years at a cheap rate

*ahem* Zucker, Kapanen *ahem*

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Okay? Put O'Connor in the AHL at the same age as Raddysh and he wouldn't have done any better than Raddysh.

Especially since he was like 5'9" back then.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Garland is a souped up Conor Sheary. He's Sheary with more grit. He will one day score a stanley cup final face off goal for us if we get him

That makes me want him even less.

 

[Pancakes]

Yes, but when Teddy broke into the league he produced immediately.

.35 ppg for Teddy versus .22 for Raddysh in their first years, but Teddy's was over a much smaller sample size.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I mean. he don't suck, but pretty close to no value around the league.

He's an okay prospect that projects to be a decent bottom-6 forward. I don't see why it's necessary to make such extreme declarative statements like "he sucks".

 

[Gurglesons]

He's an okay prospect that projects to be a decent bottom-6 forward. I don't see why it's necessary to make such extreme declarative statements like "he sucks".

He's a nothing piece. POJ is an okay comparable value wise.

 

[PensandCaps]

DOC just became pro last year. Raddysh has been pro for like 4 years.



Usually they impress with Tampa though. Raddysh was given the audition this year and basically stunk up the joint.

I don't recall Varhaeghe impressing much, infact his age 23/24 season is very similar to Raddysh's.

although guys like Marchessault and Varhaeghe skate very well.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

It's not that I really value late 1st rounders or prospects not in the upper echelon. It's that I just don't think Hagel's really the type of player to be throwing a handful of relatively valuable pieces at unless you're a team like Tampa, poised to compete for Cups for the next several years and entering the playoffs with a chance to three-peat.

If the Pens paid that price for Hagel, or Garland, I'd be pretty f***ing annoyed. This team's an extreme outside chance kinda club when it comes to challenging for the Cup and anything short of a bonafide goal scorer, or at least a guy with a singularly specialized skillset like Boeser and his obnoxiously good shot (and I'm not even that high on Boeser to be honest, I'm just intrigued by his shot and his shot alone), are guys we should pass on.

 

[66-30-33]

Glad we stayed away from Hagel.

 

[Andy99]

*ahem* Zucker, Kapanen *ahem*

but they weren’t cheap …they had already been paid…and Kap, while 23 as well, had played many years in the NHL at that point…I didn’t have problem paying what we did for Kap btw…they were hoping he’d turn into more…he didn’t…Zucker was the worst deal…older player, not a reasonable contract, and nothing special

 

[PensandCaps]

Disagree…this is exactly the type of deal the Pens should be making now as he’s signed for the next couple years at a cheap rate

Pens should be giving up 2 1sts and prospects for a 35-40 point player?

 

[Andy99]

Glad we stayed away from Hagel.

At that price, yes, but hes the type of player we should be looking for in trades

 

[Gurglesons]

At that price, yes, but hes the type of player we should be looking for in trades

He's essentially Kapanen but tries hard.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Disagree…this is exactly the type of deal the Pens should be making now as he’s signed for the next couple years at a cheap rate

Hagel isn't going to make a difference for this team. They need a difference maker if they're paying that price.

Tampa can justify paying this because they have all of their difference makers already, they can splurge on luxury depth pieces because they have Stamkos, Point, Kucherov, Hedman, McDonagh and such.

 

[66-30-33]

At that price, yes, but hes the type of player we should be looking for in trades

Our need is a goal scorer like Boeser.