Dreger: Pittsburgh in on Brassard

[ColePens]

Dorion is smart to sit on this. Hope Columbus or another team gets desperate and it's much better for them. If not - you KNOW Pittsburgh's offer will stand. What is Pittsburgh going to do? They really want Richardson or Letestu?

 

[KIRK]

Surprised Dorion does not get fired and the new GM is.....Melnyk!

Well, that would cut Ottawa's front office payroll.

 

[KIRK]

Dorion is smart to sit on this. Hope Columbus or another team gets desperate and it's much better for them. If not - you KNOW Pittsburgh's offer will stand. What is Pittsburgh going to do? They really want Richardson or Letestu?

EXCEPT he doesn't have the luxury of sitting on it past the deadline. Brassard's value drops at the draft, even with extra bidders, (a) because you're only getting 1 playoff run with him and (b) there's a 2.5M bonus payable on July 1 looming. Dorion needs Armstrong to step up, but he's old school like JR. So, he needs Jarmo to be desperate, but the bind Columbus is in cuts both ways . . . IF Columbus got Brassard, do you think they're a sure thing for the playoffs? And, if not, then do you see Jarmo paying the bid price Dorion wants to move him today?

 

[ColePens]

EXCEPT he doesn't have the luxury of sitting on it past the deadline. Brassard's value drops at the draft, even with extra bidders, (a) because you're only getting 1 playoff run with him and (b) there's a 2.5M bonus payable on July 1 looming. Dorion needs Armstrong to step up, but he's old school like JR. So, he needs Jarmo to be desperate, but the bind Columbus is in cuts both ways . . . IF Columbus got Brassard, do you think they're a sure thing for the playoffs? And, if not, then do you see Jarmo paying the bid price Dorion wants to move him today?

I listened to Jarmo talk just a couple days ago. I think he actually has a good mindset for where his team is. I do not think he's close to a panic button. Or he could have the best poker face of all time.

 

[KIRK]

I listened to Jarmo talk just a couple days ago. I think he actually has a good mindset for where his team is. I do not think he's close to a panic button. Or he could have the best poker face of all time.

We were discussing this here earlier. He's not the panic button type, which is why I wonder, if he doesn't think for certain Brassard assures a playoff spot, whether he'd pay the type of price it would take to end the bidding right now.

 

[edguy]

Brass is the type of guy a playoff team needs. He may not help you get in. But when you're there hes the kind of guy who will push you over the hump.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Sorry if it’s been asked, but is Sheary fast?

 

[ThatGuy]

Sorry if it’s been asked, but is Sheary fast?

yes, it's his biggest strength

 

[Fatty McLardy]

Sorry if it’s been asked, but is Sheary fast?

VERY.

 

[HSF]

I'm gonna be pissed if the Pens trade Sprong, Gustavsson, + 1st for Brassard.. Seems like a massive overpayment.

isnt there a salary cap ?

 

[ColePens]

Sorry if it’s been asked, but is Sheary fast?

His speed and his shot is what makes him an NHLer. He's insanely fast and his shot is very underrated. His consistency is what drops him from top 6 to bottom 6 so often.

 

[KIRK]

Brass is the type of guy a playoff team needs. He may not help you get in. But when you're there hes the kind of guy who will push you over the hump.

Brassard with Kessel

Malkin on another planet right now playing with Hagelin and Rust (or Hornqvist)

A Crosby line

How do you defend that?

End of the day, as a Pens fan, THAT is what I'm looking at.

Obviously, you still need to stay healthy and get some breaks, but add Brassard to the Pens mix without a serious subtraction from the current roster, and the Pens are, at worst, a pick em against anyone. I'd take my chances with that and, all else being equal, trust Crosby and Malkin to be the difference.

 

[HSF]

has there been a rumour about sprong + gus +1st? that seems like a lot for brass

 

[Bileur]

Well, that would cut Ottawa's front office payroll.

Nah. Melnyk would pay himself a GM salary in order to include it in the sens « losses » so he can complain about not making money.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Sorry if it’s been asked, but is Sheary fast?

He's pretty fast but exceptionally quick.

 

[66-30-33]

Sorry if it’s been asked, but is Sheary fast?

Like others have said, he's an extremly fast player. But we need the room if we are to add Brassard. We are one of the fastest teams in the league.

 

[KIRK]

Nah. Melnyk would pay himself a GM salary in order to include it in the sens « losses » so he can complain about not making money.

Speaking of Melnyk, I am assuming if a deal between Rutherford and Dorion happens that Rutherford will be required to provide photographic evidence of Matt Cooke on the grassy knoll, yes?

 

[66-30-33]

Brass is the type of guy a playoff team needs. He may not help you get in. But when you're there hes the kind of guy who will push you over the hump.

That's why I want him so bad. The guy is about as good as Kessel is when the post season starts. The more playoff performers your team has, the better you are. We also have mr game 7 in Rust, although we did lose Bonino who's awesome at getting goals at the right time.

 

[Empoleon8771]

For any Senators fans who don't know much about him, I'll give a quick scouting report on Sheary:

Pros: Phenomenal skater, it's his strongest attribute. That's both for speed and agility, his acceleration, top end speed and agility are all phenomenal. He's a well rounded offensive player overall, nice hands, a surprisingly hard shot for his size and good playmaking talents. He's good at finding soft spots in the offensive zone, which actually is an important trait to have. He's surprisingly gritty too, he has shifts where he looks like a mini Crosby with his board work.
Cons: The dude falls over like 20 times a game for seemingly no reason. He's very inconsistent. His defensive game is questionable on his strong wing and awful on his off wing. He's not a guy that's going to drive a line, he's a complementary component on a line.

I don't know if it is right to include Sheary being a complementary player as a con, but it's definitely not a pro. It's just not the kind of player he is, he's not a guy that's going to be driving offense from your 3rd line or something like that. There are so few wingers that are line drivers, though, so I don't know if it's fair to put it in as a con. The best way I can describe him is that he's Yanni Gourde if Gourde was a winger instead of a center.

 

[JackFr]

has there been a rumour about sprong + gus +1st? that seems like a lot for brass

I hope not, that's literally the Penguins' best three prospects.

 

[Liver King]

I have absolutely zero interest in Sheary, hopefully he is not involved

 

[KIRK]

@Empoleon8771, looks like your sales pitch fell flat.

 

[Shruggs Peterson]

For any Senators fans who don't know much about him, I'll give a quick scouting report on Sheary:

Pros: Phenomenal skater, it's his strongest attribute. That's both for speed and agility, his acceleration, top end speed and agility are all phenomenal. He's a well rounded offensive player overall, nice hands, a surprisingly hard shot for his size and good playmaking talents. He's good at finding soft spots in the offensive zone, which actually is an important trait to have. He's surprisingly gritty too, he has shifts where he looks like a mini Crosby with his board work.
Cons: The dude falls over like 20 times a game for seemingly no reason. He's very inconsistent. His defensive game is questionable on his strong wing and awful on his off wing. He's not a guy that's going to drive a line, he's a complementary component on a line.

I don't know if it is right to include Sheary being a complementary player as a con, but it's definitely not a pro. It's just not the kind of player he is, he's not a guy that's going to be driving offense from your 3rd line or something like that. There are so few wingers that are line drivers, though, so I don't know if it's fair to put it in as a con. The best way I can describe him is that he's Yanni Gourde if Gourde was a winger instead of a center.

From a Sens pov I can't get behind Sheary being the centre piece of a Brassard deal, and is almost entirely based on the Conacher experience. Thanks for the scouting report but all it really did was confirm the fears that if Sheary doesn't play with a centre to drive his line, then the chances are higher that this situation plays out the same. This is Conacher's scouting report from the Hockey news.

SCOUTING REPORT

ASSETS:
Has tremendous offensive instincts, playmaking acumen and a lot of quickness. He's also deceptive on the ice, and rather elusive. Is also willing to work the corners and is quite feisty.
FLAWS:
His general lack of size (5-8, 180 pounds) will always be a factor as long as he's toiling in the highest professional hockey ranks, especially since he does not back down from anyone.
CAREER POTENTIAL:
Diminutive, depth winger.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[HSF]

From a Sens pov I can't get behind Sheary being the centre piece of a Brassard deal, and is almost entirely based on the Conacher experience. Thanks for the scouting report but all it really did was confirm the fears that if Sheary doesn't play with a centre to drive his line, then the chances are higher that this situation plays out the same. This is Conacher's scouting report from the Hockey news.

SCOUTING REPORT

ASSETS:
Has tremendous offensive instincts, playmaking acumen and a lot of quickness. He's also deceptive on the ice, and rather elusive. Is also willing to work the corners and is quite feisty.
FLAWS:
His general lack of size (5-8, 180 pounds) will always be a factor as long as he's toiling in the highest professional hockey ranks, especially since he does not back down from anyone.
CAREER POTENTIAL:
Diminutive, depth winger.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

a high end prospect would be the centerpiece ie Sprong/Gus imo

money in money out

 

[Empoleon8771]

From a Sens pov I can't get behind Sheary being the centre piece of a Brassard deal, and is almost entirely based on the Conacher experience. Thanks for the scouting report but all it really did was confirm the fears that if Sheary doesn't play with a centre to drive his line, then the chances are higher that this situation plays out the same. This is Conacher's scouting report from the Hockey news.

I don't think Sheary would be the centerpiece in the Brassard deal, it would be the 1st or Gustavsson. I think Sheary would be the tertiary piece. Sheary's probably a guy you're immediately flipping to Edmonton for a 2nd or 3rd plus an okay prospect.