Rumor: Pierre McGuire hints at Brassard Trade

[Peat]

True, he did turn down the role before. But he's 30 now, his brother's gone, and he hasn't seen the playoffs in 6 years. Might change his perspective.

Yeah, maybe. Guess we'll see.

Mildly surprised, given the interest in O'Reilly, there's been no rumours about teams targeting Staal.

I want Brassard (with a minor +) for Faksa.

Assuming Dallas doesn't sign Tavares, I think they would want a more offensely skilled center than Faksa and they already have Janmark or Shore to play 3C. I do not think the Stars trust Hanzal's health and Spezza has declining production.

Faksa is nice but he ain't big game. So no dice.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I feel like his name would at least show up occasionally in the rumor mill (outside still-heartbroken Penguins fans fantasies) were that true. He seems pretty content where he's at. As does Carolina's FO.

You'd think maybe he'd want to win something again someday. But it doesn't drive everyone. Maybe he values stability both professionally and privately more than wins and Cups.

Very possible, I'm just outlining why his outlook might have changed. A scoring line role in Carolina probably doesn't look as rosy now as it did back then.

 

[Coach Travis]

I’d rather hang onto Brassard and go all-in for 3 Cups in 4 years. That’s going to be incredibly difficult depth to match up against.

 

[canadianguy77]

But again... I really don't see Staal taking that kind of backseat role, again. It was probably the biggest reason he left the first time around.

I don't think Staal liked Pittsburgh even half as much as Pittsburgh STILL seems to love him...

I lived in Thunder Bay for a few years as a youmg adult. I've also spent some time in Raleigh. Pittsburgh has both of them beat.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Very possible, I'm just outlining why his outlook might have changed. A scoring line role in Carolina probably doesn't look as rosy now as it did back then.

Hrm. Keep on dreaming that dream, I suppose. As a strictly 3C... he'd be tough to beat in that role. If I ever heard the term "Staalkin" brought up again though I'd probably snap.

On a related note, we're finally just now here in 2018 at the point where his contract doesn't look putrid. So... he's got that going for him.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I lived in Thunder Bay for a few years as a youmg adult. I've also spent some time in Raleigh. Pittsburgh has both of them beat.

Oh I don't doubt it. Though I've never been to Thunder Bay, I admit.

I just mean from Staal's perspective.

 

[Ryder71]

I’d rather hang onto Brassard and go all-in for 3 Cups in 4 years. That’s going to be incredibly difficult depth to match up against.

Exactly right, our depth at center is superb.. Let's just try to add a Rieder or a Roussel on LW and call it a summer.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Hrm. Keep on dreaming that dream, I suppose. As a strictly 3C... he'd be tough to beat in that role. If I ever heard the term "Staalkin" brought up again though I'd probably snap.

On a related note, we're finally just now here in 2018 at the point where his contract doesn't look putrid. So... he's got that going for him.

Well I don't think it's likely at all, but that's reflective to how unlikely I think it would be to find a deal that would make it worthwhile to trade a center like Brass making 3 mil per.

 

[Devilsrock17]

Brassard was never a good fit in Pittsburgh to begin with in my opinion. I think he should be traded.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Brassard was never a good fit in Pittsburgh to begin with in my opinion. I think he should be traded.

Based on?

 

[Peat]

Brassard + Jarry for Skinner. Assuming a contract extension we can live with for Skinner.

How much does that appeal to people? The value seems roughly fair but I think it probably creates a bigger gap than it patches.

 

[Shockmaster]

Based on?

Knee-jerk reaction to him being injured.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Brassard was never a good fit in Pittsburgh to begin with in my opinion. I think he should be traded.

I also have that FEELING.

But I think it's worth finding out for sure. He didn't have much time or health to prove much of anything. If Brass can be the player he's shown in the past, his value to THIS team is arguably higher than most anything you could trade him for outside of a massive coup.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Knee-jerk reaction to him being injured.

I mean, if that's his belief, that's fine. I just wish when people made statements like that, they'd add a "why" rather than just say it and leave.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I also have that FEELING.

But I think it's worth finding out for sure. He didn't have much time or health to prove much of anything. If Brass can be the player he's shown in the past, his value to THIS team is arguably higher than most anything you could trade him for outside of a massive coup.

Yeah if hes not workimg out during the season then they can trade. No reason right now.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

I mean, if that's his belief, that's fine. I just wish when people made statements like that, they'd add a "why" rather than just say it and leave.

I think he's not an ideal fit here because we can't really utilize his offensive skill, considering we have two more offensively skilled centers. So he probably has more value to Montreal than to us, so if we could get a guy like Danault back with more control, probably a similar or lesser cap hit than Brass this year, then maybe it makes sense.

But I don't see the point of that kind of fiddling. I'd think it's something bigger and more inventive from JR with multiple moving parts if Brass is being sent out.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Brassard was never a good fit in Pittsburgh to begin with in my opinion. I think he should be traded.

Brassard only played for the pens in 14 regular season games, and 12 playoff games so far. I'd like to see the pens give him more time since he came over from the Senators. If they believe in Simon; they should believe in Brassard.

 

[Jacob]

Does Montréal even spend to the cap? His biggest value point, his cap hit, would only matter to teams that do.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Brassard only played for the pens in 14 regular season games, and 12 playoff games so far. I'd like to see the pens give him more time since he came over from the Senators. If they believe in Simon; they should believe in Brassard.

Well, apples and oranges here. One of those two has significant trade value around the NHL. One of those two plays behind Crosby and Malkin and cannot get on the first PP unit, and one of those two is on an expiring contract looking to cash in with a career year in 2018-19.

Simon is a cheap Sheary replacement.

For me, the issue with Brassard has more to do with what he wants/needs from the team than what we want/need from him. I am not saying he will dog it because he will play a limited role here, but why minimize somebody's value when you can maximize it via trade?

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Does Montréal even spend to the cap? His biggest value point, his cap hit, would only matter to teams that do.

They are one of the few teams in the league who could give Brassard a Ryan O'Reilly-type contract extension beyond 2018-19.

 

[House of tpo]

remember the source pierre had us getting parisi and suter at one time too

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Brassard + Jarry for Skinner. Assuming a contract extension we can live with for Skinner.

How much does that appeal to people? The value seems roughly fair but I think it probably creates a bigger gap than it patches.

Definitely. But I think any Brassard proposal that doesn't see us get a good 3C in return does.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Definitely. But I think any Brassard proposal that doesn't see us get a good 3C in return does.

Yeah, it's kind of weird after all the drama we went through last year with folks crying about JR not addressing the 3C spot, we now have folks fine with moving on from Brassard without a 3C replacement (and I don't mean a bad 3C replacement like Rowney/McKegg/etc.).

 

[Empoleon8771]

Let's break it down nice and easy since people seem to be ignoring this.

Pierre McGuire isn't a reliable source. This really, really needs to be emphasized. He's absolutely creditless when it comes to the Penguins.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Does Montréal even spend to the cap? His biggest value point, his cap hit, would only matter to teams that do.

Ah, mais non pour les Canadiens, mon ami!