Confirmed with Link: Pierre Engvall signs 2 year extension (AAV: 1.25M)

[Dekes For Days]

Why is Jimmy Vesey in and Engvall gone gone gone?

Vesey requires waivers and Engvall doesn't.

 

[Buds17]

Is Pierre Engvall dead? Looks like he might never get an opportunity this season based on people's (HFBoard Leaf Fans) line construction.

Why is Jimmy Vesey in and Engvall gone gone gone? Did TOR prematurely sign Engvall to a too big a contract?

Will Keefe invent a 5th line for Engvall to play on?

Engvall doesn't require waivers. I can't imagine that's something that would have been thought to come into play though when he signed that two year deal. What could potentially work in his favour for a spot is his ability to play centre.

 

[meefer]

I'd be inclined to give a 24 year old, 6'5" tall W/C who can skate as good as some, and a good bit better than most, a bit more than a 48 game sample before writing him off. He signed pre CV. Will he be a star, unlikely. Might he be a better Gauthier? Possibly. Today, he's our's, let's give him a chance to see if he's got more to offer.

 

[DaWatcher]

This guy is a good player. I don't understand why some people want to dump him already. Last year was his first bit of NHL action. His size and speed gives opposing bottom 6 match ups headaches. It would be completely stupid to get rid of Engvall at this moment in time.

 

[Brown Dog]

This guy is a good player. I don't understand why some people want to dump him already. Last year was his first bit of NHL action. His size and speed gives opposing bottom 6 match ups headaches. It would be completely stupid to get rid of Engvall at this moment in time.

Agreed. Really liked him on the PK too, with his good wheels and huge wingspan.

 

[Coachcorner]

This guy is a good player. I don't understand why some people want to dump him already. Last year was his first bit of NHL action. His size and speed gives opposing bottom 6 match ups headaches. It would be completely stupid to get rid of Engvall at this moment in time.

You know ice hockey sire.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

I'd be inclined to give a 24 year old, 6'5" tall W/C who can skate as good as some, and a good bit better than most, a bit more than a 48 game sample before writing him off. He signed pre CV. Will he be a star, unlikely. Might he be a better Gauthier? Possibly. Today, he's our's, let's give him a chance to see if he's got more to offer.

We traded Kerfoot for Kadri. Kerfoot sucks on da wing and has 3 more years at 3M+ per so he has play centre. We signed Jumbo Joe who can't get up/down ice anymore but a C his whole life not a chance he plays wing. I can't see JT or Matty moving to wing this season anywho. So unfortunately he is da ODD man out. If he makes it it is because Vessey bombs out at camp and Robertson can't cut it at LW either. Barabanov will get 4th line spot. He did not come over here as a 26 year old to play for Marlies. and we ain't cutting Spezza or Simmonds on right side.

Add in da CAP and the fact he is eligible to move down without waivers and you can see why he is out of season opening roster.

 

[Cynical]

If he gets waived, I'm going to miss him skating the puck back into his own zone and turning it over, then rinse and repeating.

 

[Martin Skoula]

If he gets waived, I'm going to miss him skating the puck back into his own zone and turning it over, then rinse and repeating.

I'd love to see a clip of this happening even once, specifically the turnover in his own zone. You understand puck management is a system thing and not an Engvall thing right? If you actually watch a game you'll see all of our puck carriers turn around and regroup if there's nothing open.

 

[Stephen]

In hindsight, if they had slow rolled his contract he'd probably be a sub $900K player.

 

[I am Canadian]

Hard to believe that this guy got 50% more than Dermott.

I mean with all the contracts across the league not really but I get where you are coming from.

 

[Buds17]

Hard to believe that this guy got 50% more than Dermott.

I think term makes the difference though. I'd guess Dermott's AAV exceeds 1.25 M if he signs for two years.

 

[axlrose87]

I’m surprised with how many people are writing off engvall just because of the waivers situation.
The guy just had a pretty darn good rookie season, which was preceded by an impressive stint in the AHL.
He is already a much better player then vesey and he is just getting started.
If he is better than vesey in training camp, he should take the job (which he probably will).
Who cares if you lose a guy like vesey to waivers.

 

[Gabriel426]

Do people realize that Engvall only played 50 games or so in the league.

 

[Nooodles]

Do people realize that Engvall only played 50 games or so in the league.

And was on pace for 15 goals as a rookie.

He can play center, can PK, and a really fast skater.

Oh and he's also 6'4 but I guess it doesn't matter because it doesn't fit the Dubas plays midgets narrative.

Engvall is still a dark horse and could become a really, really good player for us.

 

[likecheese]

Engvall doesn't require waivers. I can't imagine that's something that would have been thought to come into play though when he signed that two year deal. What could potentially work in his favour for a spot is his ability to play centre.

Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't Engvall's drastic decline last season coincide almost exactly with his move to center? After they moved Kerfoot up to the wing because of Mik's injury. I only remember this because I was moaning about Keefe moving him to center when he was killing it on the wing. And then he really never got it back for whatever reason.
Has Willy or Giraffe ever displayed a solid game playing center? Even once?

 

[cesareborgia]

I mean, it's another overpayment by Dubas. Not a dramatic one, but Engvall is a 950k player.

 

[Nooodles]

I mean, it's another overpayment by Dubas. Not a dramatic one, but Engvall is a 950k player.

Pre-covid but it's too hard to understand I know.
What about the other 7-8 UFA/RFA signings he did the past months?

Another overpayment....

 

[ACC1224]

I mean, it's another overpayment by Dubas. Not a dramatic one, but Engvall is a 950k player.

Didn’t he sign before COVID?

 

[jaric1862]

Engvall will battle with Vesey for that 4th line LW spot.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Didn’t he sign before COVID?

Yeah, but Dubas should have predicted Covid-19.

 

[Joey Hoser]

I mean, it's another overpayment by Dubas. Not a dramatic one, but Engvall is a 950k player.

How exactly did you determine that a player is worth 1.2% of the cap but not 1.4%?

 

[justashadowof]

This guy was always destined to become "this guy is huge he should run over everyone" type of whipping boy. But even the "all skill all speed" set don't seem to want to back this player even as a support player despite the good skating and conscientious game.

 

[PuckMagi]

Great! I like the way he plays. He's good with the puck, creates space, and can pass to a goal scorer.

 

[Carltons Cup]

Engvall may not become a superstar, but he's young and a very good depth piece. Everyone seems to forget how good he is on the PK. Let the guy battle for a job. Nothing makes a player work harder than competition. And to all the haters who want him gone: