OT: Phillies: We Might Just Get A Little Stupid Spending: Offseason Part One

[FatTugboatFlahr]

How signing McCutchen sets Phillies up for Harper and Machado

 

[Hiesenberg]

yeah, if i'm trading Sixto, it better be in a huge package for Trout, not for ****ing Realmuto

I don't think Trout is every traded, honestly, I don't think Trout ever leaves the state of California.

 

[Young Sandwich]

I don't think Trout is every traded, honestly, I don't think Trout ever leaves the state of California.

 

[OrangeAndBlackMetal]

I don't think Trout is every traded, honestly, I don't think Trout ever leaves the state of California.

If they can't extend him, they will need to trade him, and It's certainly plausible that he wouldn't want to sign to stay in Anaheim for the rest of his career, especially when it's highly visible and common knowledge how much he loves and is invested in Philadelphia and Philly sports.

 

[Hiesenberg]

If they can't extend him, they will need to trade him, and It's certainly plausible that he wouldn't want to sign to stay in Anaheim for the rest of his career, especially when it's highly visible and common knowledge how much he loves and is invested in Philadelphia and Philly sports.

They are a pretty big budget team, I don't see why they won't.

 

[OrangeAndBlackMetal]

They are a pretty big budget team, I don't see why they won't.

I'm just suggesting that it's certainly plausible that he might not want to play there the rest of his career. In that case, the money would be irrelevant. Plus, the Phillies are a bigger budget team.

 

[wankstifier]

How can anyone hate the McCutchen deal? Have you seen the Phillies OF situation?

The office doesn’t seem to like Herrera, so there were at least 2 open spots prior to the acquisition. I think they view Quinn as the CF long term. Williams, Altherr, et all probably won’t be regulars. Still room for Harper...

 

[Rebels57]

Herrera + Sixto as a base for Trout?

Yes Please!

 

[deadhead]

McCutchen is a solid pickup, I'd have preferred two years, but odds are he'll pay for the contract before the 3rd season (6 WAR should do it).
Phillies simply can't plan on getting either Harper or Machado, it's one thing to be willing to spend, quite another to assume that a player will sign with you. So while they wait, Klentak is making incremental improvements.

This way they've made some major upgrades over last year, SS, and LF/1B where the offense may be the same but the defense is much improved.
They've also added depth to the bullpen.

With 5 OFs, and Haseley probably ready by September, if not earlier, they're in much better shape than last year.
Hernandez should bounce back with a healthy foot.

Still some question marks, but they're not as dependent on the right answers as last season, is Franco's 2nd half for real, can Herrera bounce back, can Quinn stay healthy, will Kingery take a step forward, can Alfaro develop at catcher, can the young SPs improve.

So far, the only young player they've sacrificed is Crawford.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Sounds like Klentak has his hands in Realmuto mostly to screw with the Mets and cost them Syndergaard.

 

[Jack Straw]

Sounds like Klentak has his hands in Realmuto mostly to screw with the Mets and cost them Syndergaard.

Certainly a worthwhile endeavor.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Certainly a worthwhile endeavor.

Also, if that 3-team trade goes down, Machaod to the Yanks is all but done. Phillies might be trying to stall that effort.

Like one guy on Twitter just said, if you have to sacrifice Sixto, but you end up with Realmuto and get Machado because he can't go to the Yankees, do you do it?

When you look at it like that, yea, I probably do it.

 

[Hurricane28]

That ESPN segment on McCutchen was painful. Karl Ravech was saying 50 million was way too much. That’s nothing in today’s league

 

[Hurricane28]

Herrera + Sixto as a base for Trout?

Yes Please!

Herrera + Franco + Sixto + Moniak + Williams

 

[Jtown]

are we projecting Cutch at Center?

 

[Jtown]

Herrera + Franco + Sixto + Moniak + Williams

randolph , larry greene, brady colvin, drabeck. Get it done.

 

[Hiesenberg]

are we projecting Cutch at Center?

Might be too early to say, so many things can shake out.

 

[Hurricane28]

I’m not really a fan of Moniak but I know he has upside and value. Im adding whatever for Trout. do it Matt

 

[Hurricane28]

are we projecting Cutch at Center?

No. I believe he’s moved to a corner outfielder for the past year. Still, he has a positive defensive runs saved in right field, something the Phillies can’t say they got this year

 

[Jtown]

No. I believe he’s moved to a corner outfielder for the past year. Still, he has a positive defensive runs saved in right field, something the Phillies can’t say they got this year

we have a clear centerfield need. If can be our centerfielder this is could be a 5 war upgrade from last season easily.

 

[Hurricane28]

we have a clear centerfield need. If can be our centerfielder this is could be a 5 war upgrade from last season easily.

Not a fan of Odubel?

 

[Hiesenberg]

Somebody just tweeted that Rosenthal predicted a monster extension for Trout.

I'm not sure if he was on the radio/TV.

If Rosenthal thinks he's staying...he's probably staying

 

[Flybynite]

Somebody just tweeted that Rosenthal predicted a monster extension for Trout.

I'm not sure if he was on the radio/TV.

If Rosenthal thinks he's staying...he's probably staying

Monster extension...after traded to Phillies?

 

[Jtown]

Not a fan of Odubel?

mixed feelings. Loved that we got him as a rule 5 draft guy. Started off great, but last year he was pretty bad. You can't go into next season expecting to be a team contending to win the division and have him being your starting cf. I feel like everyone of our outfielders last year busted. Altherr was the guy i was hoping that could transition into that cf spot, but again another outfielder who busted.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I’m not even saying he should come here but Trout re-signing with the Angels would be a mistake for him.