OT: Phillies: We Might Just Get A Little Stupid Spending: Offseason Part One

[Hiesenberg]

Schilling is human garbage. I will never want him in the Hall of Fame. His speech will be an embarrassment

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Schilling is human garbage. I will never want him in the Hall of Fame. His speech will be an embarrassment

There's that too but I was trying to not bring that up.

 

[Van Buren Boy]

Halladay was playing on weak Toronto teams in a really strong AL East. Out of 16 world series between 1996-2011 the AL East won half of them.

 

[Jack Straw]

Wild Thing weighs in on Curt Schilling



(Personally I don’t care either way. Agree that Schilling is an A-H though)

 

[FLYguy3911]

Pitcher wins is not a good stat, especially when you played for the Phillies in the 90s.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Pitcher wins is not a good stat, especially when you played for the Phillies in the 90s.

Agreed, it's a terrible stat. I'll admit my Schilling bias clouds my judgement. I think he's on the fence.

 

[wankstifier]

What stat lines are you looking at to come to that conclusion? Nothing great about 95 or 96. 97 and 98 no question those are definitely two of his best years. 99 also a very good season, but I don't think I would call that great. 2000 was not a great season. 2001 and 2002, yup great. 2003, very good but not HOF numbers. 2004, aside from getting 20+ wins his numbers again are not what I would consider "great." He was a very good pitcher for most of his career and had very high highs for a handful of seasons. But there is nothing you can say to convince me that from 1995-2004 he was consistently great.View attachment 178749

Read the first and lines of your post and tell me if you actually want me to explain my statement.

Might change your mind if you do a side by side comparison of Schilling and Halladay over those 10 year spans. Let me know what makes Halladay appreciably better than Schilling

 

[Rebels57]

How sick are Philly fans of the Machado/Harper nonsense at this point?

As a White Sox fan this endless saga sucks and I wish they would end this already

I cared for a bit but I gave up and now just assume we won't get either.

If we get one or both? Super.

 

[baudib1]

Think Schilling is a clear-cut Hall of Famer. He's not in the upper echelon of HOFers but definitely comfortably above what should be a reasonable Yes/No line.

Compare him to someone like Smoltz or Halladay, who were pretty easy selections, Schilling should definitely be in.

This is a guy who pitched with Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez, and Schilling was treated like the No. 1 starter in the postseason.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I think it's fine to say Schilling shouldn't be in if your standards for a HoF are higher than most, but the Mussina/Halladay/Schilling/Smoltz group should all be either in or out as a general rule.

And Kevin Brown should be right there with them.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

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