OT: Philadelphia Phillies (MLB): Senior Citizens Bank Park

[Phileeguy]

Frankly, we could use a 21 year old anything.

What good would that do? Rube & co. would wait 'til they're 26+ on the count of they need "seasoning."

 

[FlyTimmo]

What good would that do? Rube & co. would wait 'til they're 26+ on the count of they need "seasoning."

We could use a 21 year old GM.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I assume the 4th is Domingo Santana who was 18 when we traded him, and he's now batting clean-up in AAA OKC with a batting average above .300, power, and ... oh he's a RH hitting RF. We could use 21-year old one of those...

Still can't believe he was the PTBNL. I **** myself when that was announced.

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

Was Jeff Luhnow the GM that had his way with Ruben on that deal? Jesus. What a terrible trade.

 

[Phileeguy]

Was Jeff Luhnow the GM that had his way with Ruben on that deal? Jesus. What a terrible trade.

Nah, I think that was Wade at the time. One of the few good moves he did for that organization.

 

[zarley zelepukin]

Nah, I think that was Wade at the time. One of the few good moves he did for that organization.

He made a few good moves for them. There was also the time he got a nice haul from the Phillies for Roy Oswalt, and the time he got Michael Bourn for Brad Lidge.

Remember when people used to joke about how the Phillies kept fleecing Ed Wade?

 

[Hiesenberg]

He made a few good moves for them. There was also the time he got a nice haul from the Phillies for Roy Oswalt, and the time he got Michael Bourn for Brad Lidge.

Remember when people used to joke about how the Phillies kept fleecing Ed Wade?

It was Happ/Gose/Villar for Oswalt

2 of those players aren't on Houston and the 1 left stinks.

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

He made a few good moves for them. There was also the time he got a nice haul from the Phillies for Roy Oswalt, and the time he got Michael Bourn for Brad Lidge.

Remember when people used to joke about how the Phillies kept fleecing Ed Wade?

The Oswalt trade was fine, Gose was actually the guy I was upset about losing. The Bourn for Lidge trade I'd do every day. They may not have been fleeces but they were good trades. The Pence trade was awful.

 

[Jtown]

pence trade was god awful. cosart and singleton were over payment then u add in santana? jesus

 

[Hiesenberg]

And the Lee trade was abysmal.

 

[Jtown]

And the Lee trade was abysmal.

all the prospects involved with every cliff lee trade have bombed sans the montreal one.

 

[zarley zelepukin]

It was Happ/Gose/Villar for Oswalt

2 of those players aren't on Houston and the 1 left stinks.

It was a good return for him, regardless of whether or not the guys we gave up pan out. I'm not saying the Phillies got jobbed on that or anything, but it was a good trade for Houston as well.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Phillies sign Jason Marquis to a minor league contract. Chalk this one up as another Ruben "Ooh, I've heard of him before" signing.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Just saw that Anthony Hewitt (1st round pick several years back) was demoted to Clearwater, the kid is 25 years old playing with teenagers.

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

Just saw that Anthony Hewitt (1st round pick several years back) was demoted to Clearwater, the kid is 25 years old playing with teenagers.

He's still in baseball?

 

[FLYguy3911]

Just saw that Anthony Hewitt (1st round pick several years back) was demoted to Clearwater, the kid is 25 years old playing with teenagers.

Clearwater isn't all teenagers, but yeah he's been a non-prospect for years now. He actually had a really good year last year by his standards and then this year....

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

List of Phillies 1st round picks since 1998 (my boy's year)

1998 - Pat Burrell
1998 - Eric Valent
1999 - Brett Myers
2000 - Chase Utley
2001 - Gavin Floyd
2002 - Cole Hamels
2003 - N/A
2004 - Greg Golson
2005 - N/A
2006 - Kyle Drabek
2006 - Adrian Cardenas
2007 - Joe Savery
2007 - Travis d'Arnaud
2008 - Anthony Hewitt
2008 - Zach Collier
2009 - N/A
2010 - Jesse Biddle
2011 - Larry Greene
2012 - Shane Watson
2012 - Mitch Guellar
2013 - JP Crawford


Interesting. Some good hits and bad picks. Any updates on recent guys not named JP Crawford?

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Was wondering how Greene was doing as well.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Was wondering how Greene was doing as well.

Sucks.

A lot of the guys JDM listed, Like Greene, were compensation picks anyway so they weren't true first rounders.

 

[zarley zelepukin]

List of Phillies 1st round picks since 1998 (my boy's year)

1998 - Pat Burrell
1998 - Eric Valent
1999 - Brett Myers
2000 - Chase Utley
2001 - Gavin Floyd
2002 - Cole Hamels
2003 - N/A
2004 - Greg Golson
2005 - N/A
2006 - Kyle Drabek
2006 - Adrian Cardenas
2007 - Joe Savery
2007 - Travis d'Arnaud
2008 - Anthony Hewitt
2008 - Zach Collier
2009 - N/A
2010 - Jesse Biddle
2011 - Larry Greene
2012 - Shane Watson
2012 - Mitch Guellar
2013 - JP Crawford


Interesting. Some good hits and bad picks. Any updates on recent guys not named JP Crawford?

Shane Watson recently started throwing again after being shut down last year with shoulder trouble. Biddle is having a nice year repeating AA, but maybe not as dominant as hoped. Collier, Hewitt and Greene stink and/or are injured. Mitch Gueller will likely start the year in Williamsport for the second straight year.

 

[oneydcat*]

Werth

 

[FlyTimmo]

 

[Phileeguy]

On pace for 69 wins. Worst since 2000. Of course check back in a week or so, they may be on pace for even less.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Who goes before the deadline? Gotta be sellers this year. Although you never know with RAJ.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Who goes before the deadline? Gotta be sellers this year. Although you never know with RAJ.

They're going to have to eat salary to get anything half way decent in return. This roster is a war zone.