Peter Holland

[ALEXJD93]

Check my posting history its all there, I am not wasting my time with you, you don't reply to contradictions I have pointed out in your posts. I am getting back on topic. This is a thread about Holland not Bozak.

The only thing you've said is that he knows his role and gets back defensively, so does Kadri? Read through your entire post history in this thread and that's actually all you've said, yet you expect me to reply to you for the 10th time here it is plain and simple, Kadri moves the puck better out of the dzone, takes the body more often and harder, and is a better skater not to mention he plays more in the other teams o-zone, leading to less time having to defend, what about that is a non answer?

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

Have you considered the intangibles? Like, those blue bars look like they fit in much better with the Leafs' colour scheme than the ugly red ones. Maybe that's why both Wilson and Carlyle have seen the value of Bozak as the #1C.

 

[Diatomic]

Have you considered the intangibles? Like, those blue bars look like they fit in much better with the Leafs' colour scheme than the ugly red ones. Maybe that's why both Wilson and Carlyle have seen the value of Bozak as the #1C.

haha great comment

 

[Crispy Crust]

Funny, I already posted this one. You'd think this would debunk the chemistry myth but nope. The counterpoint was "well it doesn't take Kessel's PP goals into account" LOL dismissed without even taking the graphs into account

I mean if they sleep in bunk beds together or they hold hands outside of the rink, then I guess they have great "chemistry" together. However, it's evident that the chemistry they have off the ice doesn't translate on the ice.

 

[BigBust10]

Bozak has excelled with both JVR and Kessel. Lupul and Kessel were both PPG players with Bozak. Why mess with something that's working? Kadri hasn't played better than Bozak this year, and certainly hasn't done much to say he is ready to play 1C minutes. Until then, Bozak > Kadri.

 

[ECanuck]

Bozak has excelled with both JVR and Kessel. Lupul and Kessel were both PPG players with Bozak. Why mess with something that's working? Kadri hasn't played better than Bozak this year, and certainly hasn't done much to say he is ready to play 1C minutes. Until then, Bozak > Kadri.

Disturbing. There is a reason kadri at age 23 is outproducing Bozak no matter on what line he plays. There is also a reason Kadri went first round 7th overall.

 

[ECanuck]

Anyway, what a surprise Holland has been. Good scoring touch and can cycle the puck well.

 

[Mikeyg]

yes we've addressed this already, it isnt statistically significant because it doesnt take into account 30% of kessels goals which are coming from the power play, its not statistically relevant

 

[Mikeyg]

If bozo didnt suck on the top line we wouldnt even need Game 6. Period!

laugh laugh laugh, bozak is the 1c in toronto no matter how you word it

 

[Mikeyg]

I love it when you break that one out

Its not even statistically significant because it is hiding 30% of his goals that do not support the overall claim

 

[Mikeyg]

Funny, I already posted this one. You'd think this would debunk the chemistry myth but nope. The counterpoint was "well it doesn't take Kessel's PP goals into account" LOL dismissed without even taking the graphs into account

They cant be considered accurate because they have too much of the N value taken out, and 30% of the goals arent being accounted for.

 

[Mikeyg]

Oh yes, let's please hush to hear the words of the almighty bo-bandy.

I could have coached that ANA team to the cup. I wonder who goes first, Bozak or Randy

Like it or not, the guy has the results to back up his decisions

 

[ALEXJD93]

Its not even statistically significant because it is hiding 30% of his goals that do not support the overall claim

OK, but you've already said Kadri is the better, more skilled C, so wouldn't you want him on the first PP unit ANYWAYS?

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

Its not even statistically significant because it is hiding 30% of his goals that do not support the overall claim

I don't think you understand what statistically significant means.

 

[Mikeyg]

I don't think you understand what statistically significant means.

yes I certainly do actually, you can not eliminate and avoid 30% of your n value, its just terrible statistical practice. 30% is statistically relevant when you base it on a standard p value of .05

 

[Mikeyg]

OK, but you've already said Kadri is the better, more skilled C, so wouldn't you want him on the first PP unit ANYWAYS?

We would have to have supporting stats on bozak-kessel on the pp, note that even when bozak was back, the pp was still jvr lupul kessel, so maybe rc is changing his mind, who knows

 

[mikebel111*]

I really don't understand the love for Bolland. This roster is so small/weak he's only adding to the problem.

First u attack dion and kessel before, now bolland
He is the best all round centre on this team. He is a solution not a problem

 

[Leafs at Knight]

I don't think Mikeyg knows what a multi-quote is .

 

[mikebel111*]

The only thing you've said is that he knows his role and gets back defensively, so does Kadri? Read through your entire post history in this thread and that's actually all you've said, yet you expect me to reply to you for the 10th time here it is plain and simple, Kadri moves the puck better out of the dzone, takes the body more often and harder, and is a better skater not to mention he plays more in the other teams o-zone, leading to less time having to defend, what about that is a non answer?

You are literally becoming my favorite poster. Lots of nice info in ur posts.
Dont mind him, this is the same guy who thinks kadri doesnt fit the culture of leafs.
I mean what the heck?

I wouldnt mind bozak on 2nd line, but he is not first line C.

 

[Mikeyg]

I don't think Mikeyg knows what a multi-quote is .

I'd always prefer to talk to people 1 on 1, personal preference

 

[ALEXJD93]

We would have to have supporting stats on bozak-kessel on the pp, note that even when bozak was back, the pp was still jvr lupul kessel, so maybe rc is changing his mind, who knows

Could probably find it but not worth it, even when they resigned Bozak they said to be the no1 center so we'll see what Randy does...

 

[Mikeyg]

Could probably find it but not worth it, even when they resigned Bozak they said to be the no1 center so we'll see what Randy does...

he is signed to a 2c contract though, you have to give him that

 

[ALEXJD93]

he is signed to a 2c contract though, you have to give him that

Yeah and if he would produce similar numbers in that role to what he's had, I'd probably be quite happy haha, it'd be nice to atleast see how it works once he is back in the line-up, can't hurt for a game or two

 

[gamer1035]

there is some leafs fanboys in here that will defend everything the team does till death. If leafs management is doing everything right, why can't we win the cup? Hell, win a playoffs series? Hell, make the playoffs? We are the richest team with the most assets yet we suck.

Bozak plays with Kessel cause they are friends. I really think our coaches play them together because they are friends.

And why the hell did Carlyle put Grabo on the third line playing with scrubs all year against the toughest opposition with no offensive zone starts? We should put an offensive black hole like Bozak in that position and should've given grabo an extended look on the top line to prove himself.

 

[AustonMitchWilly]

What I see hear is Kessel+Bozak together are more productive than each of their numbers when theyre apart. It isnt all about Kessel.



KB Apart = 1.6 production
KB together = ~1.75 production

Take the profit and run.