shows how little I know.During a conditioning stint, a player still takes up an NHL roster spot
During a conditioning stint, a player still takes up an NHL roster spot
Agreed a conditioning stint for Petan makes the most sense. Give him a few games in the A before making any decisions.The Jets have a 6 game home stand right around the corner and the Moose are also in town for 4, it would be the ideal time to get Petan on his stint w
As he could easily be brought back in case of an emergency.
I likely see Vesalainen not making it past 9 games if he's getting such little icetime. He's the one to go down, IMO.
It seems like Petan is being gifted a spot because of his personal tragedy.
It's called compassion, look it up.It seems like Petan is being gifted a spot because of his personal tragedy.
He played 2 preseason games. I think Lemieux and Dano are a better fit for bottom 6.Based on...nothing at all? He hasn't played. What spot has he been gifted?
Love getting personally attacked by a moderator. I don't think he'd get a pb spot if he was at camp. That's a hockey opinion even if wrong. Telling someone they have no compassion is a personal attack.It's called compassion, look it up.
I'm simply pointing out why he's still being given an opportunity, nobody's attacking you. Having said that, you're comment was pretty insensitive.Love getting personally attacked by a moderator. I don't think he'd get a pb spot if he was at camp. That's a hockey opinion even if wrong. Telling someone they have no compassion is a personal attack.
If you are gonna get offended and call out the the mods, maybe just stick to watching the Jets, and zip it. You say something stupid, the people will have something to say. Suck it up.Love getting personally attacked by a moderator. I don't think he'd get a pb spot if he was at camp. That's a hockey opinion even if wrong. Telling someone they have no compassion is a personal attack.
If you are gonna get offended and call out the the mods, maybe just stick to watching the Jets, and zip it. You say something stupid, the people will have something to say. Suck it up.
Good post PS. I think the Jets will be sensitive to Petan's circumstances and give him an opportunity to restart where he left off having to return home. IMO at least a restart isn't gifting but allowing for one of your players to prove he can be a contributing member of the team. I think Petan will need a conditioning stint with the Moose to get up to game speed as he has fallen well behind being away for close to a month. After the conditioning stint, provided he has looked good and has his head into the game bring him back up and give him some NHL games. At that point make a decision on his future. Like you I have some doubts that his future with the Jets, but he deserves the opportunity.Ok I can only read half the debate but when/if Petan ever arrives as a full time active player on the Jets roster the last thing I would say is he was gifted a spot......he has been in the Jets system developing for 5 seasons now and for the most part when he has got a cup of coffee with the Jets he has either been stuck with plugs and sucked or he has played with non plugs and done well.
This season Nic was finally poised to be sharing the 12-13 role with Dano until his father passed and KVes had a good camp. The good news for Dano and Petan is there are no plugs left to play with. We have 79 games left and I have no idea what Nic’s state of mind is right now but time will tell. For now KVes is getting a shot but unless he starts getting more work it seems like a waist of an ELC year and we are holding back his development. I like Vesalainen but I still think he needs a stint in the AHL to play big minutes in all situations.
I have no idea what Petan’s career path going forward will look like. I think he is good enough to be a full time NHL player but I have my doubts it will be in Winnipeg. We are too deep at forward and unless there are allot of injuries I am not sure he or Dano will ever get the usage here. That is life in the NHL though....luck and timing play a huge role in career arcs for so many players.
It seems like Petan is being gifted a spot because of his personal tragedy.
Does a conditioning stint remove the need for waivers? How does that work?
His contract status always gave him a leg up for a job in that 12-13 role. Ves and Lemieux are the easy demotions.
Does a conditioning stint remove the need for waivers? How does that work?
13.8 Conditioning Loan. Unless a Player consents, he shall not be Loaned on a Conditioning Loan to a minor league club. Such Conditioning Loan shall not extend for more than fourteen (14) consecutive days. The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the circumstances under which a Player is Loaned on a Conditioning Loan. If the Commissioner has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the Conditioning Loan to evade the Re-Entry Waivers, or otherwise Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such disciplinary action against the Club, as he deems appropriate. The Player shall continue, during the period of such Conditioning Loan, to receive the same Paragraph 1 NHL Salary, and be entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.
Gifted a spot? The kid had a dominant year in the AHL last year and that is what would have earned him an opportunity. Once again people put way too much stick into training camp and what is earned there. Look no further then Ves who had a solid camp but is clearly not NHL ready.
The Jets will also not keep Lemieux up to ride pine in the PB considering there is still a lot of development that he can get done on the Moose and he is waiver exempt.
I would say Ves won't make it past his 9 games and Lemieux is better served in the AHL.
It seems like Petan is being gifted a spot because of his personal tragedy.